Mesa 3.0
#1531
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Well after being back at work this week I am finally seeing first hand that the ship is taking on a lot of water and fast. We have officially hit the iceberg and the band is tuneing up on the top deck. At the Crystle palace they are already making plans and preparations for when, not if, we lose the American flying. They plan to keep the 175 staffing up since it is more profitable. Even heard a management guy state that the whole Hawaii rumor was to keep people on the baite hook for the holiday staffing and give them enough time to get a downsize/ Bankrupsey plan together. Lifers and I mean guys with 20'so years are giving two week notices picked up with atlas Keletta FedEx, CAE, aligent, sperit and even envoy. I know at least 15 sr people some checkairmen leaving out of the Phx base all because they believe Mesa is going to split. Double those numbers in DFW. Woman and children to the lifeboats first, then every man for himself. Mesas' heart will not go on.
Everything in this post is made up.
#1533
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Joined: Feb 2015
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From: Ball Turret Gunner
Why is our union not orginizing a pilot and flight attendent picket line at this event. Is anyone even awake over in alpa!!! Whos at the helm boys!
#1534
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. 2. The holiday perfect attendance bonus. Both of which JO would never do if management weren't truly driven to do so. Time are a changing. Too optimistic? I fail to see how that is. Our profession demands it, so why aren't we pushing harder for it. However, I doubt that "something" is going to be a contract on par with other regionals. At least that is what I can gather based on JO´s personality. Obviously his strategy is to squeeze the workforce to maximize profits, and he seems to be pretty unwilling to get away from that mindset. Also, honestly I think it might be too late. Mesa has a reputation in the industry, and while compensation is a big part of our problems, it is only one part. It is going to take years to change the company culture and it´s perception in the industry. Unfortunately, I just don´t see a reason for management to increase pilot pay at this time.
Bottom line, all of us should have known what we were getting into when we came to Mesa. If we don´t like it here, we are free to leave and in the current market that should not be an issue. For those who are trying to leave, but can´t, chances are you fall in the group "only Mesa will take you" and beggars can´t be choosers, so stop complaining and be glad this crappy company is willing to give you a pilot job. If you can´t come to terms with that last statement maybe it is time to look for something else to do.
If JO and company continue to play this game, there will be no Mesa. Pure and simple. They will lose contracts just as Republic did and will again have to be reactionary to the market rather than visionary.
Mesa pilots..... accept only what you deserve. Industry average.
#1536
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Nope. Not even close.
Let's take a look at this $30K spread over FOUR years and paid out ONLY if you are at Mesa and still an FO 4 years later. It's a big assumption to even assume Mesa will be in business in 4 years.
This new bonus will add $5K to first year pay taking it to approximately $27K.
Not quite close enough to the other carriers now offering more than double that at $58-60K.
The new bonus will add $5K to second year pay taking it to approximately $34K. Again, not even close.
Third year . . . Same. Not even in the ballpark.
And how many people will be at Mesa and still be an FO 4 years later? Very, very few, if any. JO knows this so he knows the last $10K will probably never be paid to anyone.
Is the person structuring these new bonus programs even aware of what is going on in the industry? Do they know that $58-60K is now industry norm for a new FO?
Let's take a look at this $30K spread over FOUR years and paid out ONLY if you are at Mesa and still an FO 4 years later. It's a big assumption to even assume Mesa will be in business in 4 years.
This new bonus will add $5K to first year pay taking it to approximately $27K.
Not quite close enough to the other carriers now offering more than double that at $58-60K.
The new bonus will add $5K to second year pay taking it to approximately $34K. Again, not even close.
Third year . . . Same. Not even in the ballpark.
And how many people will be at Mesa and still be an FO 4 years later? Very, very few, if any. JO knows this so he knows the last $10K will probably never be paid to anyone.
Is the person structuring these new bonus programs even aware of what is going on in the industry? Do they know that $58-60K is now industry norm for a new FO?
#1537
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Again, you are right. Not even close to cutting it.
Now let's look at the second half of the problem. Getting people in the door is less than half the problem. The bigger problem is pilot retention.
This bonus structure offers no retention bonuses but instead a slap in the face to the current pilots by paying new hires bonuses. New hires will make more than pilots already on property.
If you think there wasn't a pilot retention problem before this, well now you just created one.
Now let's look at the second half of the problem. Getting people in the door is less than half the problem. The bigger problem is pilot retention.
This bonus structure offers no retention bonuses but instead a slap in the face to the current pilots by paying new hires bonuses. New hires will make more than pilots already on property.
If you think there wasn't a pilot retention problem before this, well now you just created one.
#1538
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Picketing crew planners and hr people does nothing. Corporate workers already see us as overpaid whiners. They're paid crap compared to thierr counterparts at other airlines also. So wrong audience.
#1539
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We non-pilots appreciate that. Most of that attitude comes from the fact we sit in on the Mesa conference call and hear y'all pound not getting an iPad into the ground. Mechanics don't get their tools payed for, my cell phone bill doesn't get paid, etc.
#1540
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Joined: Oct 2014
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From: 737 ca
It is a specialty tool. Much like your office computer. If a mechanic needs a not common tool that only works on your companies aircraft then the company needs to buy it. I dont see them buying jigs.
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