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11-02-2016 | 06:04 AM

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Most non-pilots have not invested 4 years in college, 2 years working as a CFI, and $100,000 to get to that point, only to find out that they also need to spend even more money while getting paid a terrible wage.

Mechanics do have a little money invested in many cases, but it is not nearly the time or money that pilots need to invest.

The company should provide them. Period.

11-02-2016 | 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blockplus

It is a specialty tool. Much like your office computer. If a mechanic needs a not common tool that only works on your companies aircraft then the company needs to buy it. I dont see them buying jigs.

Horse crap! You'd rather carry ALL the manuals or chances are, use the Ipad you already own? It's a convenience that you'd pay for! So yes, you all do sound like whiners about the Ipad! Look at it as an excuse to buy a new toy. Next time you see a mechanic, ask him how much he has spent on tools. Ask a car mechanic, better yet, walk onto a Snap-on truck and ask to buy a screw driver. Some of these guys have as much or more invested in their tools than you do flight training.
They also have time invested, you must have X amount of time wrenching before you get your A&P and IA. And yes, it must be at a place of business.
Be kind to your mechanics.

11-02-2016 | 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EjetTaxi

30,000 or whatever over 4 years isn't gonna cut it.

So you guys finally got some sort of bonus? Or new hires get the bonus, I gather? And not surprisingly it is way lower than industry standard, just as I said it would be. And what new aircraft are yet to be announced and for which legacy that isn't already almost scoped out? And you have to buy your own iPad? Why anyone would want to make a place like Mesa better instead of using their energy to leave for something already better is beyond me...

11-02-2016 | 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

Well since its beyond you, maybe you shouldn't post to things you know nothing about. Stay out of this thread if you have nothing to contribute.

11-02-2016 | 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sennant

Picketing crew planners and hr people does nothing. Corporate workers already see us as overpaid whiners. They're paid crap compared to thierr counterparts at other airlines also. So wrong audience.

The audience is new hires. Picket job fairs and MAG needs to create a website and call it something like www.whynotmesa.com. Put on there a comparison between our healthcare, payscales (bonuses included) etc.

As I have said before, the union is sending out these emails about our hotels and health insurance costs. We already know all of that. Tell people who don't work here what its like. That will stop them from coming.

11-02-2016 | 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sumtinwong

Well since its beyond you, maybe you shouldn't post to things you know nothing about. Stay out of this thread if you have nothing to contribute.

Apparently logic is something that isn't worth contributing. Best of luck making Mesa a great place to work.

11-02-2016 | 08:34 AM

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Nothing is every going to change at Mesa unless you can hold JO's feet to the fire!!! Things are going to stay the same as long as they can. Especially when the union leader(AH) is in bed with the JO. Lets be real AH has no intentions on making things better when things are great for him. Makes you wonder why things are going so slow! The new pay for new hires is just again another slap in the face to the pilot group. This just goes to show JO can do whatever he wants with no threat of repercussions. I feel sorry for the pour sucker who was hired last month. The new hire pay is another reason just to get out! Jo is never going to pay industry standard! If he gives anything it will have some string attached which will not benefit you.

Time to put in two weeks...

11-02-2016 | 08:36 AM

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Apparently logic is something that isn't worth contributing. Best of luck making Mesa a great place to work.

I mean we already get the logic. Have you been paying attention to what people have been saying in the past 50 pages of this thread?

We are mostly all working on exit plans but in the mean time, the conversation continues.

11-02-2016 | 09:20 AM

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JetTimePlz

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I'm thinking of going to MESA for my first regional. Realistically what base can I expect and how long is reserve? Any ideas when your pay is going to go up?

11-02-2016 | 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JetTimePlz

I'm thinking of going to MESA for my first regional. Realistically what base can I expect and how long is reserve? Any ideas when your pay is going to go up?

The pay is going up this Friday your timing couldn't be better! When Marshan or Keynan call ask them about the brand new hourly rates. You aren't eligible for them if you don't ask.

Good luck!