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Old 11-02-2016 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EjetTaxi
I love all these "Fact check" emails. Is it me or is this place about to explode? Mesa has nothing to offer anymore. Literally, there are zero things left to offer. I hope these unions emails are an indication that things "may" improve. Wishful thinking.
Why is any fo with less than 2years on property still there ? Unless you are about to upgrade really soon,I would hit the exit button and not look back.
Its going to get a lot worse before it gets better over there i promise you.
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Old 11-02-2016 | 03:46 PM
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I am from PHX and want to stay close. Looked at Endeavor, but it's a quality of life thing for me. MESA has also been around forever. Seem to always get out of bad times.
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Old 11-02-2016 | 03:49 PM
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Thanks for the tips. To be honest I'm not sure where to go. Need a fast upgrade, and smooth transition to minimize my time in a regional.
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Old 11-02-2016 | 03:50 PM
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I am not hearing too many great things about this airline now. Thanks for the info, I'll keep looking. I'm four months out before I even get the ATP mins.
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Old 11-02-2016 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JetTimePlz
Thanks for the tips. To be honest I'm not sure where to go. Need a fast upgrade, and smooth transition to minimize my time in a regional.
Ya there's around 15,000 other regional guys ahead of you that we're thinking the same thing.
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Old 11-02-2016 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
So you guys finally got some sort of bonus? Or new hires get the bonus, I gather? And not surprisingly it is way lower than industry standard, just as I said it would be. And what new aircraft are yet to be announced and for which legacy that isn't already almost scoped out? And you have to buy your own iPad? Why anyone would want to make a place like Mesa better instead of using their energy to leave for something already better is beyond me...
Rude, condescending comments...unfortunate. Consider lightening up on Mesa and its employees, they're going through a bad time.
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Old 11-03-2016 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JetTimePlz
I am not hearing too many great things about this airline now. Thanks for the info, I'll keep looking. I'm four months out before I even get the ATP mins.
I would highly recommend checking out your other options. The pay, benefits, and QOL are much better at the other regionals.

Even the newly offered new hire bonus doesn't offer much.

Let's take a look at this new hire bonus structure of $30K spread over FOUR years and paid out ONLY if you are at Mesa and still an FO 4 years later. It's a big assumption to even assume Mesa will be in business in 4 years.

This new bonus will add $5K to first year pay taking it to approximately $27K.
Not quite close enough to the other carriers now offering more than double that at $58-60K.

The new bonus will add $5K to second year pay taking it to approximately $34K. Again, not even close.

Third year . . . Same. Not even in the ballpark.

And how many people will be at Mesa and still be an FO 4 years later? Very very few, if any. It's exactly why the bonus was structured this way. The last $10K will probably never be paid to anyone. So they can advertise a $30K bonus (see how big that number looks) knowing full well they will probably never pay more than $20K and that $20K is spread over 3 years. No where close to the pay the other regionals are offering.

Lastly, new hires are now getting paid more than current FOs. If there wasn't already an attrition problem, the company just created one. And that too, is a bad sign for new hires.
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Old 11-03-2016 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrittle
Rude, condescending comments...unfortunate. Consider lightening up on Mesa and its employees, they're going through a bad time.
Are they though? Or is all of this just motis operandi for Mesa and extremely predictable?
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Old 11-03-2016 | 07:58 AM
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Old 11-03-2016 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sumtinwong
The audience is new hires. Picket job fairs and MAG needs to create a website and call it something like www.whynotmesa.com. Put on there a comparison between our healthcare, payscales (bonuses included) etc.

As I have said before, the union is sending out these emails about our hotels and health insurance costs. We already know all of that. Tell people who don't work here what its like. That will stop them from coming.
People aren't coming here. Mission accomplished.
The info is so our pilots are informed. That was a complaint that came up during the last union conference call.
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