Mesa 3.0
11-09-2016, 07:02 AM
#1642
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 304
Also, there were 18 Sept new hires on the last list. Only 14 of those Sept new hires remain on the new list. For the August list, 19 were added, 17 remain.
So, of the last 37 added to the seniority list (Aug & Sept), 31 remain on this list. That's only an average of 15 per month added to the seniority list.
That was BEFORE Envoy, Piedmont, PSA, and Endeavor made their latest pay increase announcements. Attracting pilots to Mesa is much more difficult now.
We are losing FOs at a far greater rate than we can attract and train new FOs.
I'm no rocket scientist, but short of a stellar new contract coming out immediately, and/or substantial retention bonuses to keep pilots at Mesa, this boat will be taking on water at an alarming rate. It appears it already is.
So, of the last 37 added to the seniority list (Aug & Sept), 31 remain on this list. That's only an average of 15 per month added to the seniority list.
That was BEFORE Envoy, Piedmont, PSA, and Endeavor made their latest pay increase announcements. Attracting pilots to Mesa is much more difficult now.
We are losing FOs at a far greater rate than we can attract and train new FOs.
I'm no rocket scientist, but short of a stellar new contract coming out immediately, and/or substantial retention bonuses to keep pilots at Mesa, this boat will be taking on water at an alarming rate. It appears it already is.
Last edited by Skyler02; 11-09-2016 at 07:13 AM.
11-09-2016, 11:33 AM
#1644
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: Couch FO
Posts: 81
Originally Posted by Skyler02
I used the GLOBAL Seniority List.
"To see ALL Domiciles Seniority, Click here" (At the bottom)
The numbers I stated are correct. I can list the 43 names of the people who have quit. But I won't do that on a public forum.
To reiterate my point, we are bleeding FOs. Out of the 43 that have left, 11 were off the top half of the list, 32 were off the bottom half of the list. FOs are bolting.
And it is at a rate much higher than we can attract and train new FOs. I would venture to say we are going to have a very very difficult time hiring to keep up with attrition, especially in light of the recent pay increases at Envoy, PSA, Piedmont, Endeavor, and everywhere else.
Expect the seniority list to continue to get smaller. As of today, we are at 1205.
"To see ALL Domiciles Seniority, Click here" (At the bottom)
The numbers I stated are correct. I can list the 43 names of the people who have quit. But I won't do that on a public forum.
To reiterate my point, we are bleeding FOs. Out of the 43 that have left, 11 were off the top half of the list, 32 were off the bottom half of the list. FOs are bolting.
And it is at a rate much higher than we can attract and train new FOs. I would venture to say we are going to have a very very difficult time hiring to keep up with attrition, especially in light of the recent pay increases at Envoy, PSA, Piedmont, Endeavor, and everywhere else.
Expect the seniority list to continue to get smaller. As of today, we are at 1205.
11-09-2016, 12:34 PM
#1645
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 78
You are absolutely correct, I jumped up about 9 spots in base and like 20 in global and we lost 4 FOs from the bottom, and I spoke with 4 guys that were in class with me that have interviews at other regionals. They want to stay but they are not happy with the pay. Hmmmmmm.
11-09-2016, 03:40 PM
#1646
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 203
Mesa's moving the 700 to Hawaii and we are getting new ejets!! Gaw, isn't that good enough people?? What do u want JO to do, match the pay of the other airlines? Increase quality of life with hotels and reasonable holiday pay?? Hahahah!!!
11-09-2016, 07:31 PM
#1648
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 84
hi there Mesa forum members, one of my neighbors son is considering Mesa. He has been offered a class and is in the middle of making a decision between few other airlines. One of his questions is that the 1 yr contract which is at 12k i believe he said. So if he leaves like 6 months prior to his contract finishing, he pays the remaining balance which would be around 6k i assume. And please dont say that tell my neighbors son to consider another airline as i already recommended that.
11-09-2016, 08:28 PM
#1649
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
Originally Posted by ilsbird
hi there Mesa forum members, one of my neighbors son is considering Mesa. He has been offered a class and is in the middle of making a decision between few other airlines. One of his questions is that the 1 yr contract which is at 12k i believe he said. So if he leaves like 6 months prior to his contract finishing, he pays the remaining balance which would be around 6k i assume. And please dont say that tell my neighbors son to consider another airline as i already recommended that.
11-10-2016, 04:09 AM
#1650
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 580
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
The balance is prorated per month, and with 45 days notice the remaining amount is cut in half. So at 6 months, with 45 days notice, he would owe $3k.
NO ONE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING MESA RIGHT NOW
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