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Old 01-17-2017 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
How could Commutair and transrates possibly get better deals than mesa.
Mesa has a history of underbidding other carriers to secure flying. Many other posters on this board have asserted the UAL 175 flying you all do makes literally cents.
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Old 01-17-2017 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
Was just in Phoenix. Saw the N numbers with my "Own eyes." We are getting 8 very very soon (Ejets) possibly 4 more after. My theory. United and American probably pay us way more than other regionals. They reward good work. JO just doesn't give it out and won't until he has to. How could Commutair and transrates possibly get better deals than mesa. Just think about it. He will drag this labor issue as long as he can
I have two reserved N-numbers from the FAA too, for my next experimental builds. Doesn't mean I will ever use those numbers.
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Old 01-17-2017 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
Was just in Phoenix. Saw the N numbers with my "Own eyes." We are getting 8 very very soon (Ejets) possibly 4 more after. My theory. United and American probably pay us way more than other regionals. They reward good work. JO just doesn't give it out and won't until he has to. How could Commutair and transrates possibly get better deals than mesa. Just think about it. He will drag this labor issue as long as he can
Saw what N numbers? Painted on planes? In an order book? Please clarify where you saw these n numbers. If they were on planes that Mesa is getting or currently owns, they would have been announced a while ago. If they were in an order book and the info wasn't public, you wouldn't have access to it...if you did you'd most likely be on an NDA. Not saying more planes at Mesa isn't possible or isn't happening, but I don't see how your statement that you saw the registration numbers for future Mesa aircraft makes sense.

Your theory that UA/AA pay Mesa more than other regionals is pure looney tunes. AA would keep all flying at their wholly owneds if cost wasn't an issue. But it is, and crappy companies like Mesa/gojet exist and can undercut other airlines, partly due to cheaper labor. So long as performance meets a semi decent standard, contracts with bottom feeder regionals will be continued.
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Old 01-17-2017 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
The staffing goal is 10x pilots per plane (that's a regional standard I've
The best way to see if Mesa is adequately staffed is to check the number of reserves and their monthly flight hours. An inadequately staffed airline has reserves flying a lot. Most airlines shoot for 30-50 hours as optimal reserve utilization. That minimizes paying people to do nothing (overstaffed) and minimizes system disruptions with no available reserves (understaffed). The latter also negatively affects QOL when pilots can't drop or swap trips because the reserve grid is always red.
Everyone I talked to on reserve last month broke min guarantee. There was no "sitting" reserve waiting for the phone to ring. CMF/CML went out the window and every single reserve was used every single day, sometimes even a day or two out leaving zero net reserves for that day.

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Old 01-17-2017 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by xjtgrunt
Lets put my gorilla math to work.
133 planes * 10 fh/day * 31 day/month = 41230 fh/month.

41230 /70 fh per-pilot = 589 pilots *2 (you need a co-pilot) = 1178 pilots.

So my guess is right now Mesa is either fully staffed for pilots or close to it. Mesa probably wants a few more than that to cover training, sick days, misc coverage, so 1250 would be the ideal number of pilots...I think.

Am I close?
That doesn't allow for contingency. Remember that people call in sick, use vacation, can't commute, call in fatigued. There needs to be a reasonable reserve buffer.
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Old 01-17-2017 | 03:47 PM
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Well atleast we now get to wear uniforms during aqp. Now I'll feel like a real pilot. (Sarcasm)
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Old 01-17-2017 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by brigadeaviator
Well atleast we now get to wear uniforms during aqp. Now I'll feel like a real pilot. (Sarcasm)
Didn't it say we'll be graded on appearance as well
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Old 01-17-2017 | 04:52 PM
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We'll be graded on appearance??!?
I fly with captains who wear non-standard pants; haven't had a shoeshine in a decade and shave the night before instead of the day of flight.
And there's FOs who aren't any better.
This should be interesting.
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Old 01-17-2017 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
Didn't it say we'll be graded on appearance as well
Please tell me that's optional and that they aren't required.
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Old 01-17-2017 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
Please tell me that's optional and that they aren't required.
"Compliance of the uniform policy will be assessed and graded."
Guess we're back in 6th grade.
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