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Old 06-15-2017 | 10:41 PM
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why you guys are so worried, that's why it's a vote system, everyone have the right to vote the way they see fit, if you guys are so worried get the Russians to help you rig it in your favor.
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Old 06-15-2017 | 10:47 PM
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Thx for letting us to know how we should vote , that's like giving blacks the right to vote but instructing them to cast their ballot for Trump. 👍🏼
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Old 06-15-2017 | 10:52 PM
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All these people telling Mesa pilots to vote NO, don't even work here. Like the Russians meddling in our elections.
So what? You don't have to work here to know it's a substandard contract. You even admitted that yourself while trying to justify your willingness to vote for it.
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Old 06-15-2017 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by airflight999
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All these people telling Mesa pilots to vote NO, don't even work here. Like the Russians meddling in our elections.
Excuse me...I worked at Mesa and voted NO twice! I tried to make it a better place for you but people like you are the reason Mesa is Mesa. What have you done? Based on your Russians example you just told me you know it all and you are "that FO" that never listens to the captain trying to help you because you are screwing it all up. Yep. You are the new generation... Bottom line...I don't respect people like you who are so selfish. Vote how you want but I have no sympathy for you if it passes.

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Old 06-15-2017 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cloud 9
why you guys are so worried, that's why it's a vote system, everyone have the right to vote the way they see fit, if you guys are so worried get the Russians to help you rig it in your favor.
Really? Russians to rig it in my favor? What do I have to gain? Why do you think I am on here trying to inform based on my 14 years of experience at Mesa? Maybe because you might not know about Freedom and what it did to Mesa, or the 2008 contract that passed by a vote or two because of the tough times and that we would get more in 2010 that is still on going. I have no skin in the game except to help see you through to a better contract that you finally deserve. Yes it is unfinished business for me to see a contract that Mesa pilots can be proud of and if I was still at Mesa this would be a no vote for "me". This is still not it. But vote how you want if you want the trend to continue at Mesa as a laughing bottom feeder to other pilots.

"US" former Mesa pilots know this is by far the best time to get what you deserve and don't want to see you miss out on it. "We" still care. You can mock us and act like we are here with some evil motive like you are thinking but...WHY would we want to do that??? If you are a true Mesa pilot you know we are not fond of how management treated us and/or you, suffered under low pay rates, and know this is the time to fix as much as you can. I did what I could when I was at Mesa but I never had the opportunity like you do now with the way things are in the industry. Like I keep saying vote how you want but if this is the best you want then fine. Just don't go around complaining after you vote yes that you still find yourself eating ramen noodles because you have expensive health insurance or whatever reason you want to give. This is your chance to fix it.

One thing to remember...You have no flow. You better be working hard to get hired else where because others have flow AND an better contract while they wait. So how many have gotten hired at your dream airline from Mesa recently? What were there qualifications? What if you get stuck at Mesa longer then you think? These need to be thought about prior to voting this thing in. Can you live for 3, 5, or even 10 years under it? Look at all the terrorist attacks. What if is starts in the US? The travel ban keeps getting shot down so who knows who are coming in these days without proper vetting. Have you been through the aviation cycle yet? Just think about all of that. Please.

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Old 06-15-2017 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
Really? Russians to rig it in my favor? What do I have to gain? Why do you think I am on here trying to inform based on my 14 years of experience at Mesa? Maybe because you might not know about Freedom and what it did to Mesa, or the 2008 contract that passed by a vote or two because of the tough times and that we would get more in 2010 that is still on going. I have no skin in the game except to help see you through to a better contract that you finally deserve. Yes it is unfinished business for me to see a contract that Mesa pilots can be proud of. This is still not it. But vote how you want if you want the trend to continue at Mesa as a laughing bottom feeder to other pilots.

"US" former Mesa pilots know this is by far the best time to get what you deserve and don't want to see you miss out on it. "We" still care. You can mock us and act like we are here with some evil motive like you are thinking but...WHY would we want to do that??? If you are a true Mesa pilot you know we are not fond of how management treated us and/or you, and know this is the time to fix as much as you can. I did what I could when I was at Mesa but I never had the opportunity like you do now with the way things are in the industry. Like I keep saying vote how you want but if this is the best you want then fine. Just don't go around complaining after you vote yes that you still find yourself eating ramen noodles because you have expensive health insurance or whatever reason you want to give. This is your chance to fix it.
You want me to fix it , I got you , am gonna get right on it .what do you thing we should pay for insurance ?
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Old 06-15-2017 | 11:34 PM
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You want me to fix it , I got you , am gonna get right on it .what do you thing we should pay for insurance ?
Well you do work at Mesa right? You have the chance to vote right? I sure can't fix it anymore for you. I tried during my time. Sorry.

That is a question you should ask another regional pilot or ask ALPA MEC what the others have. They should know that info. It shouldn't be your whole paycheck. When I left Mesa wanted 480/month for the health plan I was on when I was hired. I left it back in 2008 and was paying 175/month for a better plan on the market in early 2016. This alone shows what the FA's do to the costs and how Mesa is not contributing anything to it. Of course now I pay 125/month for even better but you won't get that. So somewhere in line with your peers but this contract does not address it.

However based on your comment to "get right on it" you are mocking me and probably just don't care what I have to say. Your choice.

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Old 06-16-2017 | 04:52 AM
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Something a little different.... I saw on the FB recruitment page that the company is now sponsoring visa's from Australia.
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Old 06-16-2017 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud 9
Thx for letting us to know how we should vote , that's like giving blacks the right to vote but instructing them to cast their ballot for Trump. ����
Wow, the race card and the trump card in one sentence. I am not pointing a gun at any one dude. Helping out with some suggestions and educating the public.
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Old 06-16-2017 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by airflight999
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All these people telling Mesa pilots to vote NO, don't even work here. Like the Russians meddling in our elections.
How in the world do you know these people do not work at mesa. Is it because they are not subscribing to your BS??
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