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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:51 AM
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Do we have to wear hats now ? ☹️
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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud 9
I understand what your saying but all we ask for was industry standards, the only thing am not feeling is the deadhead pay, everyone else gets 100%
Vote how you feel not what they tell you. Glad you guys are really reading this contract.
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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:52 AM
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No the company pays KCM
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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud 9
Pay FO scale
DOS and DOS+1 are interim rates, no MAG pilot will receive pay reductions at DOS+2.
This is also modeled after AA wholly owned pay scales.
See 3-A-4 and 3-A-5.
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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
Glacial pace? They were only in mediation 2 weeks before announcing a TA. Mgt is chomping at the bit to get something in place because they don't like the idea of no reserves, 200 - 300%, and continued roster shrinkage. They are hoping for folks with your views to settle for this one while knowing that, if it doesn't pass, they will be forced to very quickly offer up something much more palatable. Mesa pilots have suffered for YEARS while hoping for just a chance to get what's fair and reasonable. Now that time has finally arrived and this opportunity must be capitalized upon. If this contract is voted in, we will still be at the bottom of regionals. 5 years from now we will be even further behind as others always find ways to improve at a greater rate than Mesa. Like you, I have no intention of staying here any longer than necessary. However, I have no intention of letting Mesa management slide another one in and leaving that legacy to future employees. It's time for this company to be paying and treating its employees the same as their counterparts. We've waited so long that to wait just a little longer while watching Mesa reluctantly man-up will be well worth it IMO.
Spot on dude! Spot on!
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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:55 AM
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6a1d is a fun add in for commuters
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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud 9
Do we have to wear hats now ? ☹️
You do not have to wear hats.
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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
Vote how you feel not what they tell you. Glad you guys are really reading this contract.
We agree and thank everyone for reading this TA thoroughly, as well.
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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cloud 9
It's amazing how everyone who doesn't work here anymore wants to give their $0.02 about voting no, when your not paying my bills. The struggle is real for us Mesa pilots.
I dont wanna come off negative or be insensitive to wats going on there....but ur sitting in it and expecting different result. I have a family to take care of and there is no way I would sit at Mesa for too long with wats going on there, especially healthcare. As much as commuting is a bytc# i would rather commute to a different regional. #allergictoBS
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Old 06-14-2017 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
From reading your comments you are the typical pilot backstabber. You don't care what you leave behind as long as you benefit. This is how Mesa became Mesa. You would have fit in well at Freedom. You are the same type of pilot that made the same bed you sleep in now. You can continue the trend or you can stand up and fix it. I bet you complain a lot but yet do nothing...
Uh-huh, and you don't work at Mesa anymore, talking with other pilots actually working the line. You don't get the sense of how current pilots feel about the new pay rates. I do. And from what I see, people are actually pretty satisfied for the most part.

Why wait X amount of years of more negotiations which may or may not (most likely not) give us a better contract, when we can get something close to industry standard within a few weeks.
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