Mesa 3.0
06-14-2017, 02:01 PM
#4362
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,484
Originally Posted by airflight999
I'm voting yes. I want that money in the short term. At my longevity, it's about $500 more a month, which equates to $6,000 more a year. I don't expect to be here more than another year or two. If this thing gets voted down now, there likely won't be another TA for two more years, looking at the glacial pace of negotiations. That's $12,000 I would be losing out on.
I'm sorry but this is Mesa and we're always going to be bottom of the barrel with JO at the helm. Take what you can now, and do your best to find employment at a better airline in the meantime.
I'm sorry but this is Mesa and we're always going to be bottom of the barrel with JO at the helm. Take what you can now, and do your best to find employment at a better airline in the meantime.
06-14-2017, 02:05 PM
#4364
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: captain
Posts: 53
overall,
much better language, much better overall contract, still wish insurance was covered. that is a huge thing that with everything else, i just dont know how i will vote. just being honest. thanks for answering all of my questions while i read through it
much better language, much better overall contract, still wish insurance was covered. that is a huge thing that with everything else, i just dont know how i will vote. just being honest. thanks for answering all of my questions while i read through it
06-14-2017, 02:15 PM
#4365
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 38
Originally Posted by 85guy
with respect to equipment transfers between captains. if company gets stagnate and doesnt do any upgrade classes then there is no equipment transfers or we can do 12 equipment transfers a yr no matter what?
also, if we cont do 12 and the company does no upgrades or whatnot, the 12 from the previous yr would allow 24 upgrades for following yr and so on and so forth? based on the 1% thing im using 12 and 24 respectfully
also, if we cont do 12 and the company does no upgrades or whatnot, the 12 from the previous yr would allow 24 upgrades for following yr and so on and so forth? based on the 1% thing im using 12 and 24 respectfully
Partly correct on the second question, the transfers do roll over. However, Each vacancy bid may contain up to a maximum of 20% transfer captain vacancies.
06-14-2017, 02:43 PM
#4367
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 38
Originally Posted by 85guy
is 23 j saying if we shrink and i am forced to FO, i still get my longevity captain pay protected? confused. sorry.
06-14-2017, 02:47 PM
#4368
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: captain
Posts: 53
Originally Posted by MAGNegotiations
Correct there must be vacancies for captains to transfer over. Transfers will not displace any pilots in any equipment.
Partly correct on the second question, the transfers do roll over. However, Each vacancy bid may contain up to a maximum of 20% transfer captain vacancies.
Partly correct on the second question, the transfers do roll over. However, Each vacancy bid may contain up to a maximum of 20% transfer captain vacancies.
06-14-2017, 04:22 PM
#4369
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: E175 Captain
Posts: 49
No no no
Health insurance was not addressed at all. First year FO pay goes up to $36 per hour. However, three years after the date of signing first year FO pay is reduced to $31 per hour. Captain pay on the EJet is on average $7 less per hour than other companies. Based on the first two things I mentioned this TA should be a solid NO. Why would any pilot group vote for a contract that reduces wages in the future?
06-14-2017, 04:49 PM
#4370
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: E175 Captain
Posts: 49
Not worth it.
Originally Posted by airflight999
I'm voting yes. I want that money in the short term. At my longevity, it's about $500 more a month, which equates to $6,000 more a year. I don't expect to be here more than another year or two. If this thing gets voted down now, there likely won't be another TA for two more years, looking at the glacial pace of negotiations. That's $12,000 I would be losing out on.
I'm sorry but this is Mesa and we're always going to be bottom of the barrel with JO at the helm. Take what you can now, and do your best to find employment at a better airline in the meantime.
I'm sorry but this is Mesa and we're always going to be bottom of the barrel with JO at the helm. Take what you can now, and do your best to find employment at a better airline in the meantime.
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