CBP Air Interdiction Agent (Pilot)
04-24-2019, 05:06 PM
#161
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 47
On the latest announcement conus moves are VRP period. PR has PCS available to them. The AC has visibility on every single move. Wouldn't you think he'd have more important things to worry about? We've been short pilots for years. When we can't fly 95,000hrs/yr, we magically have "Fast Track Hiring." AMO apparently has now its own polygrapher.
Maybe we should have done this years ago? This pilot shortage is done on purpose. The AC loves to "Redline" every office. It's his MO.
Say it isn't so!
Maybe we should have done this years ago? This pilot shortage is done on purpose. The AC loves to "Redline" every office. It's his MO.
Say it isn't so!
04-25-2019, 10:15 AM
#162
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 150
OAM was “the job” to get 10-20 years ago. I was thrilled to get it, and have now fairly recently left for much happier locations and flying.
Prospective recruits, a key factor to ask your recruiters is “are you a Pilot or an Enforcement Agent?” The overwhelming majority of the Pilot recruiters do not have a pilots license.
Most recruiters are “company men” who would do anything/say anything to get you in the door...unusually so that they can get the transfer or other duty assignment that they need to escape their most desired (sarcasm) border town location.
The posts by experienced OAM pilots are true, accurate, and should be a warning to you all against this move in your aviation careers. If you desire a mostly non-flying job, in a undesirable border town, working for detached managers (not leaders & don’t fly with you), for less pay than most flying jobs ...well then I will not attempt to stop you.
The aircraft you will fly: C206, King Air, Helicopters will all leave you as undesirable to even regional airlines. Flying the P3 is not yet attainable (almost exclusively former Navy qualified P3 pilots with multiple tours), and the DHC8 has been planned for being scrapped. Even then, both of them don’t translate well to more than a regional airline.
Let’s see, work all month 5 on / 2 off for a max of 8 days off each month? Airlines guarantee 13+ days off each month. OAM is going to making you do LEAP standby on your days off (illegal) and then you can’t be unavailable.
So much of this OAM job currently blows, and the leadership is either uninterested or incompetent to react to organizational change. I predict OAM flying will dissolve in the next 5 years.
Commuting to work: NO!
Flying a 172 to work: NO! Not going to work for you...mess that up one time. There are two private airports in the Keys (Sugarloaf and Tavernaero) - you cant afford the others. Then Key West. Anyway...I’ve even tried to fly into Homestead, and the base has a firm no for you because you work on that base. OPS isn’t commuter friendly. So, yeah you can fly into Homestead General which is a 40 minute drive away. You would be better off driving in from the keys. If you attempt to drive in from Broward County (North of Miami), anticipate 2.5+ hour commute added to a 10+ hour day, weekends can be even worse. Miami Branch is located in Homestead and is now the Branch known for the worst morale and retention of all branches except PR. I know people in Miami, they would be happy to warn you.
Prospective recruits, a key factor to ask your recruiters is “are you a Pilot or an Enforcement Agent?” The overwhelming majority of the Pilot recruiters do not have a pilots license.
Most recruiters are “company men” who would do anything/say anything to get you in the door...unusually so that they can get the transfer or other duty assignment that they need to escape their most desired (sarcasm) border town location.
The posts by experienced OAM pilots are true, accurate, and should be a warning to you all against this move in your aviation careers. If you desire a mostly non-flying job, in a undesirable border town, working for detached managers (not leaders & don’t fly with you), for less pay than most flying jobs ...well then I will not attempt to stop you.
The aircraft you will fly: C206, King Air, Helicopters will all leave you as undesirable to even regional airlines. Flying the P3 is not yet attainable (almost exclusively former Navy qualified P3 pilots with multiple tours), and the DHC8 has been planned for being scrapped. Even then, both of them don’t translate well to more than a regional airline.
Let’s see, work all month 5 on / 2 off for a max of 8 days off each month? Airlines guarantee 13+ days off each month. OAM is going to making you do LEAP standby on your days off (illegal) and then you can’t be unavailable.
So much of this OAM job currently blows, and the leadership is either uninterested or incompetent to react to organizational change. I predict OAM flying will dissolve in the next 5 years.
Commuting to work: NO!
Flying a 172 to work: NO! Not going to work for you...mess that up one time. There are two private airports in the Keys (Sugarloaf and Tavernaero) - you cant afford the others. Then Key West. Anyway...I’ve even tried to fly into Homestead, and the base has a firm no for you because you work on that base. OPS isn’t commuter friendly. So, yeah you can fly into Homestead General which is a 40 minute drive away. You would be better off driving in from the keys. If you attempt to drive in from Broward County (North of Miami), anticipate 2.5+ hour commute added to a 10+ hour day, weekends can be even worse. Miami Branch is located in Homestead and is now the Branch known for the worst morale and retention of all branches except PR. I know people in Miami, they would be happy to warn you.
Last edited by WacoQCF; 04-25-2019 at 10:27 AM.
04-25-2019, 10:36 AM
#163
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 150
CBP’s top Pilot recruiter just quit to take an airline job at Kalitta.
Recruits: Please contact me with the name of your recruiter and I can tell you if he is a boat driver, supervisor, or an aircraft sensor operator. You deserve to be provided accurate information.
Recruits: Please contact me with the name of your recruiter and I can tell you if he is a boat driver, supervisor, or an aircraft sensor operator. You deserve to be provided accurate information.
04-25-2019, 10:44 AM
#164
On Reserve
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 23
Originally Posted by Shifty101
Well I can assure you, what you have heard is rumor and most of what you are claiming is not accurate
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y8hcfTFVJ9k
04-25-2019, 04:49 PM
#166
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
Posts: 13,837
King Air time leaves you undesirable for even Regionals?
Surely you mean if that is all you have maybe, but plenty of our guys and the ISR companies aren’t having any trouble going to straight to the majors, or in the case of a few with the biggest thing they have flown is a King Air; to the Regional!
Hell....even one of our DISPATCHERS with only the minimum piston twin time just got picked up :-)))
Surely you mean if that is all you have maybe, but plenty of our guys and the ISR companies aren’t having any trouble going to straight to the majors, or in the case of a few with the biggest thing they have flown is a King Air; to the Regional!
Hell....even one of our DISPATCHERS with only the minimum piston twin time just got picked up :-)))
04-25-2019, 06:59 PM
#167
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 47
Flying the P3 is not yet attainable (almost exclusively former Navy qualified P3 pilots with multiple tours), [/QUOTE]
Completely untrue here. There have been about a dozen folks within AMO transfer to Jax and CRP that are now flying the line and not prior Navy. I encourage all to apply that have some significant fixed wing time and a good attitude for learning. WE NEED PILOTS THAT WANT TO FLY THE P3!
The DHC8 has been planned for being scrapped. Even then, both of them don’t translate well to more than a regional airline.
[/QUOTE]
Really? You can't be serious!
Completely untrue here. There have been about a dozen folks within AMO transfer to Jax and CRP that are now flying the line and not prior Navy. I encourage all to apply that have some significant fixed wing time and a good attitude for learning. WE NEED PILOTS THAT WANT TO FLY THE P3!
The DHC8 has been planned for being scrapped. Even then, both of them don’t translate well to more than a regional airline.
[/QUOTE]
Really? You can't be serious!
04-26-2019, 12:11 AM
#168
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 150
Originally Posted by RCpilot2018
Flying the P3 is not yet attainable (almost exclusively former Navy qualified P3 pilots with multiple tours),
Completely untrue here. There have been about a dozen folks within AMO transfer to Jax and CRP that are now flying the line and not prior Navy. I encourage all to apply that have some significant fixed wing time and a good attitude for learning. WE NEED PILOTS THAT WANT TO FLY THE P3!
The DHC8 has been planned for being scrapped. Even then, both of them don’t translate well to more than a regional airline.
[/QUOTE]
Really? You can't be serious![/QUOTE]
Part 91 King Air and DHC8 Pilots are minimally qualified applicants to the “majors”, usually offset by their military experience. A straight off the street King Air or DHC8 candidate will be right on the level of the CFI with wet ATP. Not being in the 121 world will be a setback
Setting those arguments aside - are you also going to defend the morale and quality of life aspects? How about time off and 12 year pay scales?
So, please provide us your demographics; are you a P3 Pilot or a AEA/AEO?
My strong recommendation is to avoid the smoking turd that is OAM. Of those I know who have gone to airlines, not one has seen it as anything close to a mistake.
04-26-2019, 05:09 AM
#169
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by WacoQCF
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Completely untrue here. There have been about a dozen folks within AMO transfer to Jax and CRP that are now flying the line and not prior Navy. I encourage all to apply that have some significant fixed wing time and a good attitude for learning. WE NEED PILOTS THAT WANT TO FLY THE P3!
The DHC8 has been planned for being scrapped. Even then, both of them don’t translate well to more than a regional airline.
Completely untrue here. There have been about a dozen folks within AMO transfer to Jax and CRP that are now flying the line and not prior Navy. I encourage all to apply that have some significant fixed wing time and a good attitude for learning. WE NEED PILOTS THAT WANT TO FLY THE P3!
The DHC8 has been planned for being scrapped. Even then, both of them don’t translate well to more than a regional airline.
Part 91 King Air and DHC8 Pilots are minimally qualified applicants to the “majors”, usually offset by their military experience. A straight off the street King Air or DHC8 candidate will be right on the level of the CFI with wet ATP. Not being in the 121 world will be a setback
Setting those arguments aside - are you also going to defend the morale and quality of life aspects? How about time off and 12 year pay scales?
So, please provide us your demographics; are you a P3 Pilot or a AEA/AEO?
My strong recommendation is to avoid the smoking turd that is OAM. Of those I know who have gone to airlines, not one has seen it as anything close to a mistake.[/QUOTE]
Waco,
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