2007 Pilot Retention Rates
10-16-2007, 11:51 AM
#51
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
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Correct, Initial eligibles. I had a DOS via VSP 3 months prior to the ACP paperwork being signed or rejected, so I don't show up in the numbers. I told that Rand survey to prepare the compensation package the roughnecks worked out w/ NASA in "Armageddon". I read that SECDEF Gates said "No" to Stoploss initially back in Jan 07, mostly referencing the Army, though it's a POTUS decision/order if used.
10-16-2007, 12:06 PM
#52
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 767 FO
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Not sure if you all have heard that the Army is so desperate to retain officers that they have offered an attempt at a bonus. 35K to CPT and 1LT(P)s for three year ADSO non-concurrent with current ADSO's. There are other incentives but the goal of HRC is to retain 90% of all eligible Captains.
My unscientific study based on my organizations results is that only about 25% (3 of about 12) have taken the bonus/incentive package.
I have to wonder how confident HRC was that a bunch of late 20's early 30's Officers with families and college degrees and headhunters e-mailing them left and right would fall for a "junior enlisted" type of bonus in order to spend at least three more years of 12-15 month deployments for (basically after taxes) 8K a year.
My unscientific study based on my organizations results is that only about 25% (3 of about 12) have taken the bonus/incentive package.
I have to wonder how confident HRC was that a bunch of late 20's early 30's Officers with families and college degrees and headhunters e-mailing them left and right would fall for a "junior enlisted" type of bonus in order to spend at least three more years of 12-15 month deployments for (basically after taxes) 8K a year.
10-16-2007, 04:41 PM
#54
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Same tune is happening in the Navy. One stat that just was passed on to us was 20/25 EP(early promote) guys dropped their letter from the VFA FRS world. That is 20 out of 25 FRS EP's who were all EP's in their fleet squadrons. Can't wait to see what next years' ADHSB produces for results. I wonder how many below zone dudes will get pulled to in zone for the O-4 screen board to make the DH numbers work out. I'm with you Riddler, I made my decision in May and haven't looked back once. I know the grass isn't always greener on the other side but it can't be nearly as brown. 
10-17-2007, 03:50 PM
#55
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Position: C-17s / A320
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Originally Posted by C-17 Driver
Due to the public nature of this forum, I can't give specific numbers but this info came first hand from a Charleston buddy. Manning numbers are healthy on paper. The problem is that the types of pilots are very junior. The number of Instructor Pilots and some of the AD C-17 bases is jaw dropping low. I really mean it...JAW DROPPING LOW! They are heavy on co-pilots and the senior captains/junior majors are leaving because of separation/PCS (most guys are going UAVs or to Altus). A huge vacuum of experience has been created.
10-18-2007, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
Is manpower really so difficult? It seems the AF just can't figure it out...I lost some good friends to force shaping and now the AF says force shaping didn'tw work....
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10-18-2007, 07:50 AM
#59
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: C17; SWA/FO wanna be
Posts: 90
My finance issue got a lot better today! The VSP check just arrived and I can't seem to get this grin off my face. I left active duty in Sep, took orders with the AF reserve in Oct and will hopefully get a class date at SWA late spring. I got out 18 months early so I'm sure that I'm left out of the retention numbers.
Hasta la vista, active duty. Good luck to everyone left as you continue to do more with less.
Hasta la vista, active duty. Good luck to everyone left as you continue to do more with less.
10-18-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
Is manpower really so difficult? It seems the AF just can't figure it out...I lost some good friends to force shaping and now the AF says force shaping didn'tw work....
-LAFF
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