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Old 03-20-2008, 04:28 PM   #1  
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Hi everyone

I was just looking to hear your perspective on the UPT panel interview for a ANG slot. (in my case a C-130 unit). My first interview went real well although I was really nervous. The LTC and Major told me that they had a long standing canidate and just one UPT slot and they just couldn't pass this individual up. They strongly encouraged me to try again next round and said I interviewed real well.

One of the most striking things I found about the UPT interview was that they honestly don't care about civilian ratings or how many hours you have. I felt as if they were trying to get more of a read on my character & values.

Not sure if anyone didn't get in first round and got in on their second panel? One of the most important questions during the interview was asking how I've prepared myself to handle the rigorous training in UPT. I mentioned that I've been studying the FAR/AIM, Private PIlot Fudamentals by Jepp, and memorizing performance data sheets on the Tweet. (I found out recently the tweet is being phased out) I'm not too sure what they thought of that answer.

It's been hard for me to try and think of things to strengthen my profile so I've done few things that I think might help:

I took up running & lost a ton of weight and am now well within USAF standards.
I'm doing some volunteering.
I'm applying for a Masters degree primarily in hopes of showing the board that I can handle academics and also for something to do as my civilian job.
I think I might redo the AFOQT and try and get a higher score. My original was just mediocre.

Would be happy to hear anyones thoughts, suggestions, and or story about their journey from civilian to UPT.

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From my experience; Selected as an alternate my first year, Primary my second. If they really like you, They Want You To Come Back!!

Good luck!!
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uvmflier,
Good start. Don't give up. I was on many Navy Selection Boards for aviators to go in reserve units. Persistence is key once you pass muster as someone who will hang well with the squadron. Sounds like they were encouraging you to come back. We picked many who did return, some several times. It takes awhile to cue up, but you will know by the encouragement. Stay in touch between boards in a non intrusive way.

""Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." ~ Calvin Coolidge

Worked for me. Best of luck in the Guard!
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Dude, no worries.

Theres a guy on baseops that didn't get picked up until his 24th, yes twenty-fourth, interview. That's determination.
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Honestly, if you told me that you were at home studying the specs on the T-6 and weren't even picked up for a UPT slot, I'd think you were motivated, but I'd probably think you were a little strange too, and maybe not a real cool dude to be on a trip with. Just be yourself.... they are looking for two things 1) can they stand to be around you for any length of time 2) will you get through the training. Your credentials will give them an idea as to whether or not you can get through the training, and your personality at the interview will tell them what sort of person you are. Trust me, there is plenty of time to study all the specs of the T-6 while you are in UPT.

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As a guy going through UPT right now I can tell you do not worry about studying anything prior to UPT aside from knowing your Boldface/Ops Limits the day you show up. I'm not a guard guy so I'm not familiar with how things work, but I'm pretty sure by you telling them that you are already studying up for UPT without even having a slot you are probably not helping yourself.

We have dudes in my class that showed up to UPT having read every book and publication you can think of and they still continue to study 24/7 including Friday nights and on the weekends. In my opinion this is the worst thing those dudes can do. They do not hang out with us when we are hitting up the bars on Friday nights and now they are starting to seclude themselves from everyone else which is the worst thing you can do because that will kill your Commanders Ranking and ultimately make it harder for you to get through UPT. By the way those dudes that I'm talking about actually haven't even done that well in academics.

Now I know I got slightly off topic, but I showed up to UPT having only studied Boldface/Ops Limits and after 5 academic tests I currently have the highest test average in the class(which means nothing if you can't fly and aren't a good guy by the way).

Like everyone said before just focus on being yourself in the interviews and making the unit realize you're a pretty cool guy and would be a great asset to the unit.

Personally for me if I were on a combat sortie I would much rather have a dude on my wing that went out to the bar with me last night, got wasted, backed me up in a fight, and then split a cab ride home with me over someone who knows the DASH-1 by heart and studies 24-7. That's my .02.
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You guys are great. What I'm hearing from you all is exactly what the LTC said to me when I walked into the UPT Panel. They began by simply stating that they wanted to get to know me and see if they could hang out with me on a 7 day trip. I'll let you all know how it goes. Thanks for the guidance & direction. I was worrying way too much about the wrong things.

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As a guy going through UPT right now ......
Personally for me if I were on a combat sortie I would much rather have a dude on my wing that went out to the bar with me last night, got wasted, backed me up in a fight, and then split a cab ride home with me over someone who knows the DASH-1 by heart and studies 24-7. That's my .02.
Good job young warrior. I like your way of thinking.
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Good job young warrior. I like your way of thinking.
Hey man I appreciate it, but I just wish I was going through the Air Force 20 years ago. Unfortunately I don't think the Air Force has that mindset anymore. Today's Active Duty Air Force is more concerned with OPR Bullets, wearing reflective belts, Computer Based Training, and making sure no one's sleeves are rolled up.

I still wouldn't trade it for the world though. Yeah sure guard or reserves look pretty cool, but I just feel so lucky to even be given the chance to fly any Air Force jet.

So for those reading the comments about how bad active duty is realize it's not that bad, but still probably not as great as the Guard/Reserves. Also keep in mind this is coming from someone who is very new to the active duty Air Force who will probably be singing a different tune in a couple of years, but until then I'm going to try and have as much fun as I can without ****ing too many of the clerks off.

On a side note have you all seen this picture? Notice anything odd about the picture?
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Buzz can do what he wants. Buzz probably doesn't care how you wear your flight suit. Buzz doesn't care about reflective belts or how well you write an OPR. Buzz cares about money, the F-22, and TFI.
I know that's the thing. I bet he had no idea that the uniform reg he signed contained the reg that forbid rolling your sleeves up. I bet it was a non flyer who put that in there and told Mosely to sign here on this dotted line. Trust me I don't hold it against Mosely at all. I have no doubt that rolling up your sleeves is the last thing he is worried about(Heck we're at war right now!). I would just like to think that he would think about those of us at the bottom of the food chain who are the ones who hear the crap from the Uniform Nazi's and get rid of that reg. Just a thought though. Besides I'm just a lowly 2LT that needs to **** anyways.
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