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Old 05-18-2008 | 11:04 AM
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Jeff,
So if you have a "pic of you on the boom," then who was flying? This is just funny now. And just to clarify, you both are correct WRT the boom/drogue. The boom can be fitted with a drogue, but this can only be configured/de-configured while on the ground by maintenance. Once you takeoff, you're stuck with what you've got. The KC-10 has a centerline drogue that they can trail. Both the 10 and the 135 CAN have MPRS or WARPs on the wingtips to cater to either type of receiver.

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Old 05-18-2008 | 12:04 PM
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we fly as a two ship. since you probably dont know what that means, i will explain.

we fly around with a wingman (you probably have heard that term from your SOS studies and your mentor sessions with your Commander while you suck up to him).

suggest you go back to heating up the convection oven, fixing your coffee and working on that tanker track management (read: altitude awareness). oh, find me a thunderstorm...would you?

...............retard!
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Old 05-18-2008 | 12:05 PM
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Jeff122670-

5 little things for you-

1- if your birthday is 12/26/1970 in this day and age that's a pretty dumb handle, might want to get a LIFELOCK account.

2- if you are hijacking a thread, advertise it as such- like wearing a big watch and driving a red sportscar- make it obvious when you have issues for those of us trying to get a chuckle rather than throw some love darts.

3- Stay in for a career, at least- if your attitude is such- there are still lots of tankers that may need your advice. There is no one on this site that has ever given out good and timely advice to total strangers aiding their employment quests- especially no tanker pilots- those guys hold the gouge like they hold their gas!

4- While arguing over planespotting issues- do some vault time on just how friendly our NATO allies have been over the years under that French Flag.

5- Maybe there is a reason our tankers are dragging YOU thru thunderstorms and bobbing up and down for YOU. They'll post your hero shots in the windows for you too if you ask nice.

Back to the thread- Douche Bag gets my second- about the tanker, that is...
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Old 05-18-2008 | 12:09 PM
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who is hijacking a thread?

i just said, the French tanker i refueled from was one of the best ever.

'nuff said...
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Old 05-18-2008 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by smee
Dear Jeff,
We just wanted to thank you for your vote of confidence. Sorry we all can't be as perfect as you are, but at least you're giving us something to shoot for. By the way, next time you let your WSO fly the refueling, we will include a complimentary tail wash AT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE! Break turns are one thing, but actually holding stable on the boom is something entirely different.

We will make an ops-note in your honor to be sure that our tankers go out of their way in the future to find you and your flawless bretheren THE ONLY French tanker.

With "all due" respect,
your friendly neighborhood tanker
That's what I'm talking about. Don't take **** from anyone talking about how good the French are at anything except wine and cheese. **** them and their cowardly country. I'll take a 10 or 135 any day to refuel my Bomber. And yes, we can get on that boom for a 100,000 pounder and never leave the green!! Go get 'em Smee. What the hell is a matter with Jeff anyway??
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Old 05-18-2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TBoneF15
Jeff, I'm floored at your post. You are clearly an imposter. No American fighter dude I know would EVER speak highly of anything french, to include their tankers. I'm not kidding. And no American fighter dude would EVER put down a fellow American, for any reason, in favor of anything french.

So did they hand over your ATO to the taliban? Oh, wait, the frogs are good dudes with their "sh-t together." They would never hand over the ATO to the bad guys...or spy on us...or develop jammers to use against us then sell them to our enemies. Yup, they are good dudes.

You are either a lieutenant who is too naive to understand, or (hopefully, for your sake) you are a french dude who logged on for covert PR. If you continue to claim you are an American fighter dude, then print out your post and bring it to your weapons officer immediately for his feedback. Expect that to consist of a swift boot squarely in the junk.

By the way...that frog "tanker" you love...he was sniffing your trons the whole time. Maybe it was just to be friendly.

Shame!

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Old 05-18-2008 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by smee
Dear Jeff,
We just wanted to thank you for your vote of confidence. Sorry we all can't be as perfect as you are, but at least you're giving us something to shoot for. By the way, next time you let your WSO fly the refueling, we will include a complimentary tail wash AT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE! Break turns are one thing, but actually holding stable on the boom is something entirely different.

We will make an ops-note in your honor to be sure that our tankers go out of their way in the future to find you and your flawless bretheren THE ONLY French tanker.

With "all due" respect,
your friendly neighborhood tanker
FWIW, I fly AFSOC aircraft for 11 years. Refueled so many times I can/could do it in my sleep...with you guys blacked out..us having to toboggan....OVER GW, etc...and I don't recall remembering the force as a bunch of crap pilots who can't hold their altitude.

Either this Jeff guy is a posuer or he is the reason people make fun of Light Grey guys..most are good dudes...and then there's Jeff.
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Old 05-18-2008 | 01:51 PM
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None taken,

The boom is always on, as is the drogue attachment at the end of the boom. USAF KC-135s take the drogue attachments on and off, the French leave it on.
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Old 05-18-2008 | 03:46 PM
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Wow...I bet somebody wears his Air Force leather jacket when he is off duty. So glad I never had to fuel anyone or be refueled. Typical mine is bigger than yours...you know what they say about guys that drive fancy sports cars! Maybe it goes for planes too...
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Old 05-18-2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dtfl
or he is the reason people make fun of Light Grey guys
NEGATIVE...he's not a light gray dude if he was in OEF/OIF. He's a mudhen dude. A C-model dude would never: 1) publicly complain about how difficult it was to tank (regardless of weather, turbulence, or the tanker's altitude holding ability) or 2) compliment a frog.
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