Goodbye Whopper and DQ!
03-30-2010, 06:59 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,224
I love these guys that see Afghanistan as an amusement park. Been to four different bases there and I never thought of it as disneyland. While I am not a big fan of BK, I don't see it as problem that some guys want to have a cheeseburger every now and then.
I can't speak for other services, but the Air Force has done it's best to eliminate any kind of comradere and morale. We wear reflective belts and PT gear to the chow hall. We aren't allowed to drink alcohol (same in all services). Many aren't at FOBs but, it is austere. This at a place where the vast majority of us could care less about. Being displaced at a year at a time, away from our families, and some clowns are worried about the festive atmosphere of a Burger King? Are you kidding me?
The guys coming back from the field might enjoy a burger when they get back. We can eat from our mess kits, sleep in personally made shelters, wipe with leaves or bare hands, and bathe in sewage pits. That might make it suck more, which seems to be the plan...
I can't speak for other services, but the Air Force has done it's best to eliminate any kind of comradere and morale. We wear reflective belts and PT gear to the chow hall. We aren't allowed to drink alcohol (same in all services). Many aren't at FOBs but, it is austere. This at a place where the vast majority of us could care less about. Being displaced at a year at a time, away from our families, and some clowns are worried about the festive atmosphere of a Burger King? Are you kidding me?
The guys coming back from the field might enjoy a burger when they get back. We can eat from our mess kits, sleep in personally made shelters, wipe with leaves or bare hands, and bathe in sewage pits. That might make it suck more, which seems to be the plan...
03-31-2010, 09:37 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: UH-60, AS-350, C-550
Posts: 273
Originally Posted by golfandfly
I love these guys that see Afghanistan as an amusement park. Been to four different bases there and I never thought of it as disneyland. While I am not a big fan of BK, I don't see it as problem that some guys want to have a cheeseburger every now and then.
I can't speak for other services, but the Air Force has done it's best to eliminate any kind of comradere and morale. We wear reflective belts and PT gear to the chow hall. We aren't allowed to drink alcohol (same in all services). Many aren't at FOBs but, it is austere. This at a place where the vast majority of us could care less about. Being displaced at a year at a time, away from our families, and some clowns are worried about the festive atmosphere of a Burger King? Are you kidding me?
The guys coming back from the field might enjoy a burger when they get back. We can eat from our mess kits, sleep in personally made shelters, wipe with leaves or bare hands, and bathe in sewage pits. That might make it suck more, which seems to be the plan...
I can't speak for other services, but the Air Force has done it's best to eliminate any kind of comradere and morale. We wear reflective belts and PT gear to the chow hall. We aren't allowed to drink alcohol (same in all services). Many aren't at FOBs but, it is austere. This at a place where the vast majority of us could care less about. Being displaced at a year at a time, away from our families, and some clowns are worried about the festive atmosphere of a Burger King? Are you kidding me?
The guys coming back from the field might enjoy a burger when they get back. We can eat from our mess kits, sleep in personally made shelters, wipe with leaves or bare hands, and bathe in sewage pits. That might make it suck more, which seems to be the plan...
Yes, they might. The problem is deeper than that. I can't speak for Afghanistan except what you see on the news, but in Iraq, it's not the BK that's a mission distractor. Its the clandestine clubs, booze (like I said GO 1 is a joke), prostitutuion by soldiers, etc. It's all there, and we flew several drug overdoses to Baghdad. A dumb way to lose a soldier.
03-31-2010, 12:33 PM
#23
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,224
Dustoff,
I can speak for Afghanistan. I am not saying that their isn't booze and prostitution in country, I am sure there probably is. I am disappointed that I have never been invited to the party though! But, getting rid of an ice cream shop and Burger King aren't going to stop this stuff. Alcohol isn't widespread, it's just too hard for most to get. If you snuck some in, it wouldn't last long.
As you know, it's a complete bummer going over there. Time away from your family, miserable conditions (yes even for those on the bigger bases, Kandahar and Bagram), and again, most people have no real idea why we are there. To me, it is a no win situation. These places will be corrupt and to a large degree lawless long after we leave. But, we're there now, and I believe it is hard to get out once your committed. I think the Afghan surge is a good idea, let's give it our all and see what happens.
I just don't see what a few reminders of home are such a bad idea. These places totally suck, and there is no reason to make them suck more. If a 19 year old wants a whopper and spend his own money, big deal. It just might be the last whopper he'll ever eat.
By the way, anyone bragging about getting combat zone exclusion/hostile fire pay on a quick trip or an overfly needs their tail kicked. I'll gladly help you...
I can speak for Afghanistan. I am not saying that their isn't booze and prostitution in country, I am sure there probably is. I am disappointed that I have never been invited to the party though! But, getting rid of an ice cream shop and Burger King aren't going to stop this stuff. Alcohol isn't widespread, it's just too hard for most to get. If you snuck some in, it wouldn't last long.
As you know, it's a complete bummer going over there. Time away from your family, miserable conditions (yes even for those on the bigger bases, Kandahar and Bagram), and again, most people have no real idea why we are there. To me, it is a no win situation. These places will be corrupt and to a large degree lawless long after we leave. But, we're there now, and I believe it is hard to get out once your committed. I think the Afghan surge is a good idea, let's give it our all and see what happens.
I just don't see what a few reminders of home are such a bad idea. These places totally suck, and there is no reason to make them suck more. If a 19 year old wants a whopper and spend his own money, big deal. It just might be the last whopper he'll ever eat.
By the way, anyone bragging about getting combat zone exclusion/hostile fire pay on a quick trip or an overfly needs their tail kicked. I'll gladly help you...
04-02-2010, 06:07 AM
#24
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Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 840
Originally Posted by Riddler
The real reason that they're getting rid of DQ and BK is that the whoppers were putting a strain on the AF's ability to ship reflective belts, PT gear, and toner cartridges into theater. More importantly, by eliminating the hundreds of civilian employees, we can free up space for more Master Sergeants to forward deploy and ensure that everyone is properly tucking in their PT gear shirts.
Classic. I actually smiled before 9am!
