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No love for the oldies from you U-2 folk Originally Posted by HuggyU2
F-15A? Yoke?? Don't recall a yoke on my three A model rides.

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Just one built: Factsheets : Republic Night/Adverse Weather A-10Originally Posted by HuggyU2
- Two-seat A-10: funny it's mentioned as I was looking at it last week. Internet might be wrong: Edwards says only 1 was built. I have a picture I could paste here, incuding the sign in front it, but cannot figure out how to post a photo here.
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contri...illop/5670.jpg
Don't know if this is urban legend or where I read about it, but....
In the days of open cockpit training (think bi-plane), there was one "stick" and it would physically passed between instructor and student. It simply would be detatched and handed back/forward as needed. I can't remember if it was the student or instructor who snuck and hid an extra stick on board, but the story goes the "one" stick was passed, and the receiver (and owner of the secret spare), shouted, "NO I DONT WANT TO FLY" and threw the "only" control stick over the side. The reaction of the unsuspecting should have been disbelief, panic, and worthy of a pre-historic YouTube.
Can anyone fill in the details - is this real, a movie, or BS.
Thx
In the days of open cockpit training (think bi-plane), there was one "stick" and it would physically passed between instructor and student. It simply would be detatched and handed back/forward as needed. I can't remember if it was the student or instructor who snuck and hid an extra stick on board, but the story goes the "one" stick was passed, and the receiver (and owner of the secret spare), shouted, "NO I DONT WANT TO FLY" and threw the "only" control stick over the side. The reaction of the unsuspecting should have been disbelief, panic, and worthy of a pre-historic YouTube.
Can anyone fill in the details - is this real, a movie, or BS.
Thx
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I was wondering how many other military aircraft required the pilot to get in and fly without any "dual" instruction. It could be in a single seat aircraft or two seats where the second seat does not have access to flight controls.
A-6, EA-6B, F-14, just to name a few. First time a student flies the jet, she/he's at the controls and the instructor is in the other seat...watching.Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
I was wondering how many other military aircraft required the pilot to get in and fly without any "dual" instruction. It could be in a single seat aircraft or two seats where the second seat does not have access to flight controls.
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Originally Posted by Mink
A-6, EA-6B, F-14, just to name a few. First time a student flies the jet, she/he's at the controls and the instructor is in the other seat...watching.
F-117....and at night

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I think ONLY single seat F117s existed. In the jets I mentioned, multiple seats but only one set of controls. If, as a student, you screw the pooch in a single seat jet, you only hurt yourself. In the multi-seat, single-controls jets, everyone in the jet gets to enjoy your steep learning curve.Originally Posted by ERJF15
F-117....and at night
Worst IP flights in the right seat of the Prowler were night formation. Student's first night join ups (no NVDs), you're along for the ride and can only coach / scream.

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Worst IP flights in the right seat of the Prowler were night formation. Student's first night join ups (no NVDs), you're along for the ride and can only coach / scream.
Try being -3 in the division for those night formation flights to included TacForm, Tacan Rndz, and of course the Break-up and Rndzs! Originally Posted by Mink
I think ONLY single seat F117s existed. In the jets I mentioned, multiple seats but only one set of controls. If, as a student, you screw the pooch in a single seat jet, you only hurt yourself. In the multi-seat, single-controls jets, everyone in the jet gets to enjoy your steep learning curve.Worst IP flights in the right seat of the Prowler were night formation. Student's first night join ups (no NVDs), you're along for the ride and can only coach / scream.
Sandwiched inbetween the the replacement pilots.USMCFLYR
