Notices
Military Military Aviation

ATP practical

Old 04-05-2017, 05:23 AM
  #411  
Gets Weekends Off
 
ugleeual's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: 767/757 CA
Posts: 2,594
Default

If your goal is to work for SWA then going the type rated ATP on the 737 is the way to go... Honestly flying a 737 is easier than flying a Twin Seminole. I agree that this ATP-CTP is a joke... waste of time and money.
ugleeual is offline  
Old 04-09-2017, 05:32 PM
  #412  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,268
Default

Originally Posted by MikeF16 View Post
Yeah, the relevance of my 6 hours of twin time (can't even remember the name) is 0. The entire ATP requirement for a fixed wing military pilot with over 1500 hours is ridiculous. I thought there was still a significant cost saving by going the light twin route, if not then I take back at least some of my previous post.

On the bright side, once you get through all this the job will ultimately be worth the pain of getting it.
I got my ATP before the rule change and I couldn't agree more even then. My C-130 checkrides and annual sim refresher training were far more involved than my 8 hours (including check) in a Seminole that I'll likely never step foot in again.
JTwift is offline  
Old 04-11-2017, 11:12 AM
  #413  
Gets Weekends Off
 
WAFP's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Freddy driver
Posts: 154
Default

I'm caught in the ATP-CTP boat and have that all scheduled, but it seems like the game has changed for the practical. Where are all the cool kids taking the practical nowadays?
WAFP is offline  
Old 04-11-2017, 11:31 AM
  #414  
Covfefe
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
Default

Originally Posted by WAFP View Post
I'm caught in the ATP-CTP boat and have that all scheduled, but it seems like the game has changed for the practical. Where are all the cool kids taking the practical nowadays?
At a regional is the cheapest and one of the lowest threat places to do it, while checking a few boxes...
BeatNavy is offline  
Old 04-13-2017, 04:41 AM
  #415  
Otto
Thread Starter
 
MikeF16's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: Turkish Pile Driver
Posts: 1,806
Default

Originally Posted by JTwift View Post
I got my ATP before the rule change and I couldn't agree more even then. My C-130 checkrides and annual sim refresher training were far more involved than my 8 hours (including check) in a Seminole that I'll likely never step foot in again.
Oddly enough, my light twin check ride was extremely involved. I had the misfortune of signing up for a program that until about 1 month prior had been a 'pay the fee, get the degree' kind of place (as it should be). They got busted by the FAA, the primary examiner lost his credentials, and were under major scrutiny. I had a full-up ground eval along the lines of 'ok, you're a molecule of hydraulic fluid, explain the landing gear system...' Awesome, I can now built this POS twin that flies like a dump truck, that I will never fly again. I guess light twins get some kind of harmonic going if you don't get the RPMs just right. Of course with my 3 hours of practice I was like the new student who lets the ATIS run for 10 minutes straight but never hears it. My examiner is in my crap because I'm not fixing it and all I can think is who friggin cares?
MikeF16 is offline  
Old 04-13-2017, 05:58 AM
  #416  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: T-38C IP
Posts: 1
Default

Air America in Daytona Beach FL. Can't beat the price and very big picture.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hex1972 is offline  
Old 04-13-2017, 07:04 AM
  #417  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 23
Default

Originally Posted by Hex1972 View Post
Air America in Daytona Beach FL. Can't beat the price and very big picture.
Fully agree. Quick and cheap. I don't know how the new rules affect it, but when I took it with them, they had it set up so you could get it done in two days and about $1000. I paid a little more because I didn't think I was ready and wanted to take one more training flight. The IP said I was ready and was just be wasting my money. However, you will need another $700 cash for the DPE, could be more by now? There were a couple other ex and and current military guys taking it when I was there. A B1 and a UH-60 pilot. Neither had ever touched a light twin, and did fine. I stayed at the Quality Inn just outside the airport for about $60.

One more thing about the DPE. It won't be a Santa Claus ride. He will hit "everything" in the PTS. Make sure you get the a/c manual from them and go over every system, engine, prop, fuel, electric, gear, etc. My oral took longer than the ride.

Multi-Engine ATP - Course Pricing | Air America Flight Center
OuterMarker is offline  
Old 04-15-2017, 07:47 PM
  #418  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 27
Default

Air America was interesting. Hex1972 recommended it to me and a buddy of mine and I spent a week down there. Including airfare, hotel, rentals/instruction and $800 cash for the DPE (yes $800) it was arbout $3100. The DPE was a pain in my ass, but big picture. Feel free to pm for details. We were there in early Feb.
Planephlyer is offline  
Old 04-17-2017, 01:04 AM
  #419  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,268
Default

Originally Posted by Planephlyer View Post
Air America was interesting. Hex1972 recommended it to me and a buddy of mine and I spent a week down there. Including airfare, hotel, rentals/instruction and $800 cash for the DPE (yes $800) it was arbout $3100. The DPE was a pain in my ass, but big picture. Feel free to pm for details. We were there in early Feb.
Two years ago my ATP check was $500 for the DPE. These examiners are pulling in, what, at least $200k a year easy? Maybe closer to 300?
JTwift is offline  
Old 06-08-2020, 02:49 PM
  #420  
New Hire
 
gump1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2018
Position: PIC
Posts: 5
Question Where to do ATP Multi Training

Most of the post are old and things change very fast in aviation. I have the ATP written completed and only need to practice in a twin and take the checkride. Does anyone have a recommendation on where to train and test? Quality over price, and the ability to fly everyday until completion are most important.
gump1 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mitragorz
Flight Schools and Training
15
04-13-2014 02:39 PM
skylover
Aviation Law
482
11-14-2013 08:20 PM
jdr7225
Flight Schools and Training
22
09-13-2011 08:29 AM
backflip
Flight Schools and Training
3
11-18-2010 12:13 PM
Planespotta
Flight Schools and Training
9
06-20-2007 08:19 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices