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11-12-2009 | 05:35 AM
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A pilot with a mind, so rare in this age. Excellent points and post, you have restored that little lost hope that in
telligence may be awake in some. Love Ann Rand's perspective. Not to change the subject but have you read "The Glass Bead Game" by Herman Hesse. Some of those lessons certainly apply to these times when our democracy is dying.
telligence may be awake in some. Love Ann Rand's perspective. Not to change the subject but have you read "The Glass Bead Game" by Herman Hesse. Some of those lessons certainly apply to these times when our democracy is dying.WW
11-12-2009 | 05:43 AM
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11-12-2009 | 05:57 AM
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Country rankings for trade, business, fiscal, monetary, financial, labor and investment freedoms
Here is a list (2008 this time) of countries ranked by GDP per capita:
GDP - per capita (PPP) 2008 country ranks
I don't have time to do a regression analysis but TLAR tells me that there is a correlation between economic freedom and GDP/capita. If GDP/capita can be taken as a proxy for prosperity then it follows that economic freedom is associated with prosperity.
As always, figures lie and liars figure. Use at your own risk.
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11-12-2009 | 06:10 AM
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I'll take a shot at this. Here is a link to a list of the world's freest economies in 2009:
Country rankings for trade, business, fiscal, monetary, financial, labor and investment freedoms
Here is a list (2008 this time) of countries ranked by GDP per capita:
GDP - per capita (PPP) 2008 country ranks
I don't have time to do a regression analysis but TLAR tells me that there is a correlation between economic freedom and GDP/capita. If GDP/capita can be taken as a proxy for prosperity then it follows that economic freedom is associated with prosperity.
As always, figures lie and liars figure. Use at your own risk.
WW
Country rankings for trade, business, fiscal, monetary, financial, labor and investment freedoms
Here is a list (2008 this time) of countries ranked by GDP per capita:
GDP - per capita (PPP) 2008 country ranks
I don't have time to do a regression analysis but TLAR tells me that there is a correlation between economic freedom and GDP/capita. If GDP/capita can be taken as a proxy for prosperity then it follows that economic freedom is associated with prosperity.
As always, figures lie and liars figure. Use at your own risk.
WW
I also wasn't attacking Jungle. That would feel kind of like chasing after Ralph Wiggum. I guess I was attacking Rand though. She had the same sort of basic philosophy as Aleister Crowley, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," which really just boils down to sociopathy. To the point where she was completely enamored with a child murderer, because he was 'steering his own ship and following his own star.' If this is the person that you want to find answers from, go for it.
11-12-2009 | 03:27 PM
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Well, I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusion. I will point out that the U.S. is in the top ten of both lists, and that the economies appear to get more de-centralized the farther down the list you go.
I also wasn't attacking Jungle. That would feel kind of like chasing after Ralph Wiggum. I guess I was attacking Rand though. She had the same sort of basic philosophy as Aleister Crowley, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," which really just boils down to sociopathy. To the point where she was completely enamored with a child murderer, because he was 'steering his own ship and following his own star.' If this is the person that you want to find answers from, go for it.
I also wasn't attacking Jungle. That would feel kind of like chasing after Ralph Wiggum. I guess I was attacking Rand though. She had the same sort of basic philosophy as Aleister Crowley, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," which really just boils down to sociopathy. To the point where she was completely enamored with a child murderer, because he was 'steering his own ship and following his own star.' If this is the person that you want to find answers from, go for it.
If you have any comments on the benefits of centralized economies or the history of their use as a better answer to non-centralized economies, now might be a good time to make your argument. Still waiting.
11-12-2009 | 05:55 PM
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You seem to have mastered "The Simpsons", but we normally discuss economics here.
If you have any comments on the benefits of centralized economies or the history of their use as a better answer to non-centralized economies, now might be a good time to make your argument. Still waiting.
If you have any comments on the benefits of centralized economies or the history of their use as a better answer to non-centralized economies, now might be a good time to make your argument. Still waiting.
. You don't listen to anything anyone says, and you don't answer people's points with logical points of your own. When someone says something you don't want to hear or aren't able to answer, you typically string together a sentence of three syllable words that doesn't SAY anything as a way of deflection. For an example, see my post #16.
11-13-2009 | 04:10 AM
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Well, I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusion. I will point out that the U.S. is in the top ten of both lists, and that the economies appear to get more de-centralized the farther down the list you go.
I also wasn't attacking Jungle. That would feel kind of like chasing after Ralph Wiggum. I guess I was attacking Rand though. She had the same sort of basic philosophy as Aleister Crowley, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," which really just boils down to sociopathy. To the point where she was completely enamored with a child murderer, because he was 'steering his own ship and following his own star.' If this is the person that you want to find answers from, go for it.
I also wasn't attacking Jungle. That would feel kind of like chasing after Ralph Wiggum. I guess I was attacking Rand though. She had the same sort of basic philosophy as Aleister Crowley, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," which really just boils down to sociopathy. To the point where she was completely enamored with a child murderer, because he was 'steering his own ship and following his own star.' If this is the person that you want to find answers from, go for it.
11-13-2009 | 04:49 AM
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Nah, I'm not going to 'debate' with you . You don't listen to anything anyone says, and you don't answer people's points with logical points of your own. When someone says something you don't want to hear or aren't able to answer, you typically string together a sentence of three syllable words that doesn't SAY anything as a way of deflection. For an example, see my post #16.
. You don't listen to anything anyone says, and you don't answer people's points with logical points of your own. When someone says something you don't want to hear or aren't able to answer, you typically string together a sentence of three syllable words that doesn't SAY anything as a way of deflection. For an example, see my post #16.
11-13-2009 | 05:42 AM
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Notice that while this graph appers to support my theory that economic freedom leads to increased prosperity (i.e., my previous TLAR was correct), this proposition has not been proven. Based on information available from the chart, it could be that greater prosperity is a function of economic freedom. Conversely it could be that economic freedom is a function of increased prosperity. It may be that both are derived from another, uncharted, factor. It could also be that these are coincidentally correlated, but otherwise unrelated, values.
However, unless you can demonstrate flaws in either the statistical analysis itself, or the economic data that populate the X and Y axes, we can dispense with the idea that central planning leads to economic prosperity.
WW
However, unless you can demonstrate flaws in either the statistical analysis itself, or the economic data that populate the X and Y axes, we can dispense with the idea that central planning leads to economic prosperity.
WW
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