Originally Posted by Peabody17

Ahhhh…yes, “back in the day” that may have been possible. In fact, back in the 2000-2002 time frame, some went straight to the left seat…with or without a choice. Of course those days are LONG GONE. The odds of a new-hire getting a choice of fleet assignment now is zero.

NEW-HIRES: Be advise, your initial fleet will be assigned, not chosen.

Originally Posted by H NGM N

Year 1 Pay Breakdown

TLDR: Way too much soft money too budget for year 2 outside of salary. Timing was everything and extended days and FDP are drying up.

Here's a breakdown of my year 1 pay. For some context I started IOE ~ 3.5 months after Indoc. I remained on the CC72 schedule after IOE and until the summer. CC 72 for approximately 8 months and have been on the 7/7 the past 4 months.

Salary: $80,100 - 179 Scheduled Duty Days
Extended Day: $29,400 - 28 extended days. Mostly due to the guaranteed verbiage of our previous LOA for being on the CC 72 Schedule.
FDP Night: $200
FDP Non - Flt: $2600
FDP: $52,500
Holiday Pay: $4700

401(k) Match: $12,095 ~ unrealized
Gross: ~ $187,300

Whats not included in this breakdown is other compensation such as tips, Fuel points (Atlantic Bucks, Tailwins, AV Trip), Hotel points, airline points, and credit card points on the AMEX. Maybe a value of 3k for these perks.

For the 401(k) match I won't be fully vested until year 5

Compared to my peers I probably did better than average. As shown above if you're in an overstaffed fleet or in an older fleet that is constantly AOG'd, then lack of soft money will severely affect your monthly take home pay.

Originally Posted by cons

The company mostly takes previous experience, or lack thereof, into account when assigning fleets to newhires.

Originally Posted by shrsailplanes

I don’t think this is true at all. I saw people coming from a King Air go to the CL350 and people coming from an airplane with Auto-Throttle, VNAV and fly-by-wire go to the sovereign. I think aircraft assignment involves a dart board and a blind fold and that’s about it.

Originally Posted by cons

In my experience, I haven't seen that. No ATP, restricted ATP, no jet time, etc a mix/combo of either of those seem to be normally taken into account. But fleet assignments are like a box of chocolates, ya never know what you're gonna get.

Originally Posted by shrsailplanes

Can you provide an example of how it is taken into account? Because I saw absolutely no rhyme or reason to how airplanes were assigned in my class even after they went through the trouble of standing us in line to tell someone what aircraft and what job we came from previously and what aircraft we would like to be assigned.

Originally Posted by MinRest

They didn't care when I was hired. I was typed in two of the airplanes they put people in my new hire class into, yet I was put into the Phenom. Still kinda funny that they don't let you pick based on seniority.

Originally Posted by shrsailplanes

Can you provide an example of how it is taken into account? Because I saw absolutely no rhyme or reason to how airplanes were assigned in my class even after they went through the trouble of standing us in line to tell someone what aircraft and what job we came from previously and what aircraft we would like to be assigned.