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Old 09-07-2023, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hdgbug View Post
The average fleet hours have not changed much since my original post. So you could use the same formula I gave earlier to estimate possible FDP and then add it to whatever seat/year pay you want to look at. The numbers on the Airline Pilot Central profile for salary are (I believe) last years, so it is a little higher now and then there will be some increases to the payscale over the next few years. But, you should be able to get a decent idea by using the numbers on there now. I will caution that present performance in FDP is certainly no indicator of future performance. I will go back to my advice that while FDP and other soft money does come with showing up to work, I would caution against making any financial plans based off soft money.
Very good point, I agree. Same everywhere you go, always make your financial plans based on guaranteed pay, never on soft. We all saw the soft money go away during the onset of covid, we were lucky company didn't cut base pay.
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Old 09-08-2023, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SonnyTuckson View Post
Very good point, I agree. Same everywhere you go, always make your financial plans based on guaranteed pay, never on soft. We all saw the soft money go away during the onset of covid, we were lucky company didn't cut base pay.

Good plan but doesn’t work here. Too much soft pay.
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Old 09-08-2023, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ZebraSpots View Post
Good plan but doesn’t work here. Too much soft pay.
I know a guy that recently left because he wasn’t making enough.

He had planned his budget on soft money not hard.

That’s his fault.
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Old 09-10-2023, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedepilut View Post
I know a guy that recently left because he wasn’t making enough.

He had planned his budget on soft money not hard.

That’s his fault.

Eh… might have gotten the Sovereign or the XL. What those pilots make in FDP is NOT what flight ops management was telling prospects they would make at job fairs.

That IS one primary reason many pilots leave feeling taken advantage of. Both of those fleets need to be replaced ASAP and turned to beer cans.

Soft money to total pay is to large a ratio as well. 70/30 would be doable to budget from. 50\50 is just too aggressive towards the company side.

And really, what matter is “who’s fault is it” if too many leave and NJA can’t service commitments?
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