Netjets pay question
07-02-2019 | 12:25 PM
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The money and being stuck in the right seat for quite a while is what it is. The pay has improved quite a bit and the upgrade time will go down over the next decade as the majority of pilots retire. That said, this isn't the majors. Know what your getting yourself into before you come, but if you are seriously looking to come here, you probably really aren't thinking much about going to the majors. If that was your goal, you'd be asking a bunch of questions in the majors section of this message board and not wasting your time in the fractional section.
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07-03-2019 | 07:54 AM
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The Union just sent out NJA Pilot breakdown by age charts. Very interesting. Over 1000 of our 2430 pilots are over the age of 54. And the vast majority of those are PIC's.
I don't think pilots hired at NJA this year will have to wait 10 years for an upgrade. 287 pilots are 64 or older so there's a big group between 54-64. Now on the downside pilots of that age are probably not going to leave NJA. But most don't hang on much past 65 so there will be a lot of movement. Yes it'll take longer at NJA to upgrade than most other fractionals but once you do you'll have pretty good progress up the seniority list.
On our June losses/gains list we lost 3, 1 senior and 2 new hires, and we also gained 3 new hires.
I don't think pilots hired at NJA this year will have to wait 10 years for an upgrade. 287 pilots are 64 or older so there's a big group between 54-64. Now on the downside pilots of that age are probably not going to leave NJA. But most don't hang on much past 65 so there will be a lot of movement. Yes it'll take longer at NJA to upgrade than most other fractionals but once you do you'll have pretty good progress up the seniority list.
On our June losses/gains list we lost 3, 1 senior and 2 new hires, and we also gained 3 new hires.
07-03-2019 | 09:34 AM
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The Union just sent out NJA Pilot breakdown by age charts. Very interesting. Over 1000 of our 2430 pilots are over the age of 54. And the vast majority of those are PIC's.
I don't think pilots hired at NJA this year will have to wait 10 years for an upgrade. 287 pilots are 64 or older so there's a big group between 54-64. Now on the downside pilots of that age are probably not going to leave NJA. But most don't hang on much past 65 so there will be a lot of movement. Yes it'll take longer at NJA to upgrade than most other fractionals but once you do you'll have pretty good progress up the seniority list.
On our June losses/gains list we lost 3, 1 senior and 2 new hires, and we also gained 3 new hires.
I don't think pilots hired at NJA this year will have to wait 10 years for an upgrade. 287 pilots are 64 or older so there's a big group between 54-64. Now on the downside pilots of that age are probably not going to leave NJA. But most don't hang on much past 65 so there will be a lot of movement. Yes it'll take longer at NJA to upgrade than most other fractionals but once you do you'll have pretty good progress up the seniority list.
On our June losses/gains list we lost 3, 1 senior and 2 new hires, and we also gained 3 new hires.
I’m actually surprised the union published this information because it will only add fuel to the fire that we DESPERATELY NEED a mandatory retirement age in the 91K/135 world.
07-03-2019 | 08:34 PM
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More than 200 pilots over the Part 121 mandatory retirement age. There are 5 over the age of 78!!!
I’m actually surprised the union published this information because it will only add fuel to the fire that we DESPERATELY NEED a mandatory retirement age in the 91K/135 world.
I’m actually surprised the union published this information because it will only add fuel to the fire that we DESPERATELY NEED a mandatory retirement age in the 91K/135 world.
07-08-2019 | 01:29 PM
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If you believer the union the company is no longer hiring 65+ age pilots? They are pushing hard for a 70 year part 135 retirement in the next FAA funding bill?
07-08-2019 | 08:06 PM
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The few airline retirees I flew with were great, would love to fly with them anytime.
08-10-2019 | 12:17 PM
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08-10-2019 | 02:52 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Paying $5K/month Med LOA benefit for 2.5 years adds up when a large chunk of a certain demographic is out on medical. That's $150K per pilot plus the 60% with no cap they get the first 6 months.
The few airline retirees I flew with were great, would love to fly with them anytime.
The few airline retirees I flew with were great, would love to fly with them anytime.
They also have had a pretty significant fail rate in initial training. One reason I came here over a major was I know my schedule for 4 months at a time and airline to your starting point and home. You can make a lot more money at a major but I like working 5 1/2 months first year on track to make $95-100K. Its not for everyone though. I would say FDP has added a third pay check every month. Fatti Latti is busy though, got 8 hours of flying today of FDP. If you need to know where your going to be every night don't come here, I've been from Baham overnight to Jackson Hole this las tour.
08-13-2019 | 11:42 AM
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This group is professional enough not to fall for such juvenile temptation.
Are you afraid of the FDP wheel? Does it taunt you? A second time?
We have an enviable safety record. Since FDP, this company has been doing very well.
Everyone should be proud.
08-13-2019 | 11:48 AM
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More than 200 pilots over the Part 121 mandatory retirement age. There are 5 over the age of 78!!!
I’m actually surprised the union published this information because it will only add fuel to the fire that we DESPERATELY NEED a mandatory retirement age in the 91K/135 world.
I’m actually surprised the union published this information because it will only add fuel to the fire that we DESPERATELY NEED a mandatory retirement age in the 91K/135 world.
Ask any pilot who’s under 60 on the list of they feel the same scenario will apply to them when they turn 65.
You’ll get a resounding NO.
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