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Old 10-31-2021, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRest View Post
Don't get mad because I gave my opinion. If you don't like how forums work, don't log in. Everyone said the airline industry was too big to fail, and that has proven true. That is better job security than betting on NJA still being around when Uncle Warren kicks the bucket.

Oh and you are flying for a company that furloughed the highest percentage of pilots out of ALL the airlines in 2009.

Are you seriously using FAs being assaulted as a defense of staying at NJA? Are you mental? 100% of pilots working for airlines don't have to see TEB 6 times a month. Enjoy the Hanoi Hilton!

Funny thing is absolutely no one asked your opinion. You found another “girl”.

Presently we have pilots leaving AA wholly owned and other regional carriers for Netjets. The AA wholly owned new hires are giving up the Airbus seat for a bizjet. Turns out commuting isn’t conducive to a solid family life, and that holds true for any airline, not just a regional.

Plain and simple, if you want to live in Billings, Albany, Providence, etc and fly for a 121 carrier, you will go to and from work on your own time and expense. If you want to fly professionally and not deal with non-reving, jumpseating and a two day off block between trips, you come to Netjets. There are plenty of times I’ve gotten on a 737 going to/from a trip and thought “I miss getting in the airplane and turning left”. Then I remember how much of my life I wasted commuting in the day before a trip, buying my own hotel, staying in a crash pad, busting my hump to make a 15 minute turn off my last flight to catch my last commute chance and said to myself, “nah. Cleaning the lav is way better than dealing with that sh—“. Same when I see my W-2 and think “I’d have made $70K more at <insert airline here>”. Then it’s “I spent $70k this year to spend extra time I would have used commuting with my teenaged kid, on my boat, fiddling with cars or just generally sitting on my rear end not stressing about how I’m going to get to work when all the flights on Monday are oversold, the weather sucks and there are three other guys already listed for the jumpseat”.


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Old 10-31-2021, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash View Post
Funny thing is absolutely no one asked your opinion. You found another “girl”.

Presently we have pilots leaving AA wholly owned and other regional carriers for Netjets. The AA wholly owned new hires are giving up the Airbus seat for a bizjet. Turns out commuting isn’t conducive to a solid family life, and that holds true for any airline, not just a regional.

Plain and simple, if you want to live in Billings, Albany, Providence, etc and fly for a 121 carrier, you will go to and from work on your own time and expense. If you want to fly professionally and not deal with non-reving, jumpseating and a two day off block between trips, you come to Netjets. There are plenty of times I’ve gotten on a 737 going to/from a trip and thought “I miss getting in the airplane and turning left”. Then I remember how much of my life I wasted commuting in the day before a trip, buying my own hotel, staying in a crash pad, busting my hump to make a 15 minute turn off my last flight to catch my last commute chance and said to myself, “nah. Cleaning the lav is way better than dealing with that sh—“. Same when I see my W-2 and think “I’d have made $70K more at <insert airline here>”. Then it’s “I spent $70k this year to spend extra time I would have used commuting with my teenaged kid, on my boat, fiddling with cars or just generally sitting on my rear end not stressing about how I’m going to get to work when all the flights on Monday are oversold, the weather sucks and there are three other guys already listed for the jumpseat”.


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And these are the exactly the reasons why I want to make the move from 121 to Fractional.
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Old 10-31-2021, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash View Post
Funny thing is absolutely no one asked your opinion. You found another “girl”.

Presently we have pilots leaving AA wholly owned and other regional carriers for Netjets. The AA wholly owned new hires are giving up the Airbus seat for a bizjet. Turns out commuting isn’t conducive to a solid family life, and that holds true for any airline, not just a regional.

Plain and simple, if you want to live in Billings, Albany, Providence, etc and fly for a 121 carrier, you will go to and from work on your own time and expense. If you want to fly professionally and not deal with non-reving, jumpseating and a two day off block between trips, you come to Netjets. There are plenty of times I’ve gotten on a 737 going to/from a trip and thought “I miss getting in the airplane and turning left”. Then I remember how much of my life I wasted commuting in the day before a trip, buying my own hotel, staying in a crash pad, busting my hump to make a 15 minute turn off my last flight to catch my last commute chance and said to myself, “nah. Cleaning the lav is way better than dealing with that sh—“. Same when I see my W-2 and think “I’d have made $70K more at <insert airline here>”. Then it’s “I spent $70k this year to spend extra time I would have used commuting with my teenaged kid, on my boat, fiddling with cars or just generally sitting on my rear end not stressing about how I’m going to get to work when all the flights on Monday are oversold, the weather sucks and there are three other guys already listed for the jumpseat”.


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Last time I checked, ACMI are 121 carriers, pay more than NetJets, and for most of them there is no jumpseating or commuting.
And no lav cleaning either.

Don't get me wrong, NetJets is a fine 135. And it works for a lot of people. But there are other non-commuting options out there, including 121.
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Old 11-01-2021, 04:48 AM
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[QUOTE=Blueridger;3316530]For a guy with no regrets, it’s hilarious how you keep stalking the Netjets threads. Kinda like an ex girlfriend you just can’t let go of.

Anyhow, Glad it all worked out for you but some pilots remain aware that without government intervention (ie bailouts, which are still being payed out), the 121 world would have faced mass layoffs. Netjets is now in shape to better absorb an economic downturn like it did in 2020 than any airline. Latest airline data shows terrible 3rd quarter financial results without the government aid. I prefer to fly for a company that can stand on its own….

Yeah, UPS and FedEx may have something to say about this
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Old 11-01-2021, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Last time I checked, ACMI are 121 carriers, pay more than NetJets...
You sure about that?
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Old 11-01-2021, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MinRest View Post
Don't get mad because I gave my opinion. If you don't like how forums work, don't log in. Everyone said the airline industry was too big to fail, and that has proven true. That is better job security than betting on NJA still being around when Uncle Warren kicks the bucket.

Oh and you are flying for a company that furloughed the highest percentage of pilots out of ALL the airlines in 2009.

Are you seriously using FAs being assaulted as a defense of staying at NJA? Are you mental? 100% of pilots working for airlines don't have to see TEB 6 times a month. Enjoy the Hanoi Hilton!
The tongue in cheek comments seem to elude you. I certainly don’t use it as a pretext to stay at Netjets, but I’ll just say the worst part of my work week is waiting at the gate to board my airline flight.

oh, and I probably saw TEB a grand total of 3 times in the past year. And the Hilton has been renovated and the kitchen does a great job - I recommend the rack of lamb.
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Old 11-01-2021, 07:02 AM
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TEB Hilton one of the few places to get eggs benedict included in the rate. It does a good job softening the blow of being in TEB.
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Old 11-01-2021, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Last time I checked, ACMI are 121 carriers, pay more than NetJets, and for most of them there is no jumpseating or commuting.
And no lav cleaning either.

Don't get me wrong, NetJets is a fine 135. And it works for a lot of people. But there are other non-commuting options out there, including 121.
Atlas Cargo? Doubtful.

But I’m sure it’s a fine place to see the world from another perspective.
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Old 11-01-2021, 09:59 AM
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Atlas Cargo? Doubtful.

But I’m sure it’s a fine place to see the world from another perspective.
For 17 days straight no less.
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueridger View Post
For 17 days straight no less.
Only work 17 days straight if thats what you want. Plenty of split lines that are scheduled pretty much like 135, except with more days off per month.
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