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Old 08-08-2022 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Das Auto
Do you realize how dumb that just sounded?
Please share which university awarded you your science & physics degree.
Not dumb at all. CO2 is not pollution. Smartest thing the climate alarmists ever did was shorten it to carbon. Brings to mind black dusty stuff.

The CFCs you brought up earlier was, in fact, pollution and was dealt with to great effect. CO2 is necessary for life as plants convert it to oxygen so we can stay alive. If you do some research, there is lots of scientific data that CO2 levels follow temperature rather than cause it to rise.

Of course climate is changing. It's been changing since the beginning of the Earth's existence. It will continue to change. We have roughly 125 to 150 years of decent data. The planet is billions of years old. Sample size is way too small to declare anything.

Anyone who has been a pilot for any time at all knows a forecast is good for 18 to maybe 30 hours max. Anyone making claims of anything 30 t0 100 years from now is just throwing out a WAG. All the climate models predicting doom over the past few decades have been completely wrong.

Doctors once declared peanut butter causes cancer. Experts are often wrong.
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Old 08-08-2022 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Das Auto
I guess Bill Gates is wrong then. I mean he's clearly an idiot. Next they'll be saying that all the plastic in the oceans is caused by humans too!
If I want advice on the future of computer science, Bill Gates is certainly on a short list. For advice on climate science he's not in the top ten thousand.

Woodrow Wilson was President of the United States, dreamed up the league of nations, and led during WW1. He was also a flaming racist.

Herbert Hoover was also President and was a highly successful businessman. He also arguably crashed the US economy.

Charles Lindberg was the first person to cross the Atlantic solo in an airplane. He also was a staunch isolationist who blamed jews for war mongering and said we should appease the Germans.

Henry Ford virtually invented the affordable automobile market and assembly line. He was also a raging anti-semite.

Lots of visionary leaders are genius in one specific area, yet believe their genius extends to all subjects. It rarely does. Bill should stick to computers.
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Old 08-08-2022 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Das Auto
I guess Bill Gates is wrong then.
Yep, he is.

Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
If I want advice on the future of computer science, Bill Gates is certainly on a short list.
I would even argue he isn't that good at computer science as much as he is / was good at business.
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Old 08-08-2022 | 07:46 PM
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Could you send me the link?
https://youtu.be/P19ywkobLX8

Thought I had linked in a previous post. Here ya go.
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Old 08-08-2022 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Das Auto
They had to raise the height of the streets in Miami beach.
"With an average elevation of about 4 feet, Miami Beach is at risk of chronic severe flooding. The sea at the southern end of the Florida Peninsula has risen 1 foot since the 1990s and sunny day floods are four times more frequent today compared to 15 years ago.Dec 2, 2021."

I s this B.S. too?
This will always happen. Same as other places are having lower water levels. This is why they had to change the narrative from global warming to climate change to now climate crisis. More reason for this change is the total global temperature. Even though we’re developing cleaner energy… harmful emissions are still increasing. Rapidly! Especially in China and India. If the climate crisis is man made, the global temperature should be increasing in similar form as our emissions increase. Yet, even as our harmful emissions increase significantly year after year… the global temperature rate of increase hasn’t really changed since 1910.

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/mon...l/202013#gtemp
this is the global temperature chart from NOAA.

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions
This chart shows in 1910 our output was around 3 billion tons. Compared to today it’s over 36 billion tons!! So in 110 years, our CO2 output has increased by a factor of 12! Yet, the global temperature rate of increase hasn’t changed… in 110 years!!

The ice ages went away before jet engines were here and ol billy bob was driving his gas guzzling Chevy to go pick up his sister for a date. How else did the ice ages disappear? Cow farts?
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Old 08-09-2022 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
https://youtu.be/P19ywkobLX8

Thought I had linked in a previous post. Here ya go.
Interesting perspective. To be fair though, I'm sure you could find another self proclaimed expert who is pushing a book that will give a completely different narrative. Regardless of whether one thinks fossil fuels contribute to a warming climate or not, burning coal to heat water to produce steam to make power is dirty, out dated and inefficient. It's basically the same technology used in an old steam locomotive. Smog, carbon monoxide & sulphur dioxide pumped into the air we breathe in a town near you. I'm a fan of nuclear, as long as it's not built by the ocean next to a fault line or run by the Soviets, but they're not cheap to build.

For aviation there isn't yet a viable alternative to Jet A, but to generate electricity there are multiple options now. Many less expensive than coal and gas.
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Old 08-09-2022 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Das Auto
I guess Bill Gates is wrong then
He's as right about climate as he is vaccines....
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Old 08-10-2022 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
This will always happen. Same as other places are having lower water levels. This is why they had to change the narrative from global warming to climate change to now climate crisis. More reason for this change is the total global temperature. Even though we’re developing cleaner energy… harmful emissions are still increasing. Rapidly! Especially in China and India. If the climate crisis is man made, the global temperature should be increasing in similar form as our emissions increase. Yet, even as our harmful emissions increase significantly year after year… the global temperature rate of increase hasn’t really changed since 1910.

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/mon...l/202013#gtemp
this is the global temperature chart from NOAA.

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions
This chart shows in 1910 our output was around 3 billion tons. Compared to today it’s over 36 billion tons!! So in 110 years, our CO2 output has increased by a factor of 12! Yet, the global temperature rate of increase hasn’t changed… in 110 years!!

The ice ages went away before jet engines were here and ol billy bob was driving his gas guzzling Chevy to go pick up his sister for a date. How else did the ice ages disappear? Cow farts?
Umm. Did you even read the NOAA article and look at the chart that you posted?? Sounds like you missed some key points in there Sparky.
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Old 08-13-2022 | 05:44 PM
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Umm. Did you even read the NOAA article and look at the chart that you posted?? Sounds like you missed some key points in there Sparky.
I see what you’re saying. Mostly about 1981 and onward… but the rate of emission increases still far outpaces temperature increases. It’s not even close. And again.. how did the ice ages disappear? The doomsdayers are acting like this is the first time global temperatures have ever increased. People have been saying the world is going to turn into a ball of fire since the 50s. I grew up in the 90s and I remember learning and hearing from the “experts” that we only have 10-20 years before the east coast is completely under water. We’re 2 decades past that and those “experts” are still 98% to 99% wrong. So color me a skeptic when none of their predictions have come true.
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Old 08-14-2022 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
I see what you’re saying. Mostly about 1981 and onward… but the rate of emission increases still far outpaces temperature increases. It’s not even close. And again.. how did the ice ages disappear? The doomsdayers are acting like this is the first time global temperatures have ever increased. People have been saying the world is going to turn into a ball of fire since the 50s. I grew up in the 90s and I remember learning and hearing from the “experts” that we only have 10-20 years before the east coast is completely under water. We’re 2 decades past that and those “experts” are still 98% to 99% wrong. So color me a skeptic when none of their predictions have come true.
Poor comparison. The ice age temperature change took place over hundreds if not thousands of years. The last 8 years were the hottest on record. Also, according to wikipedia, 99% of scientists believe that the recent change in the climate is due to human activity, specifically too much Co2 being released.

If you had a tumor and 99 doctors told you it was cancer that needed to be removed but 1 wacco told you it was just a pimple that will go away on it's own, you'd go with that guy?
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