Flyfalcons

So, a hypothetical to determine whether one is commuting or not.

Scenario A: Fractional pilot finishes their flying assignment in Atlanta, and (while on duty) is given a ticket on an airline flight to their base Orlando on the last flight of the evening. Airline cancels.

Scenario B: Airline pilot finishes their flying assignment in Atlanta, and (now off duty) lists jumpseat on the last flight of the evening to their home Orlando. Airline cancels.

In the above scenarios, who is responsible for the lodging costs of staying in Atlanta for the evening? Who gets compensated monetarily for not getting home that evening?

The answers to the questions above differentiate who is "commuting" and who is not.

Helij3t

"The airline guy sitting at the back of the class just sipped his coffee."
In my opinion the cards favor the frac pilot.

avi8er

and what? They suppose listen you? The guy complained about busting a checkride doing 251? And happily picking up extended day while your fellow pilots are on the street? What a joke

avi8er

how’s Rudy’s nowadays?

Pervis

You won’t find many in disagreement with you. All companies have their rough edged individuals. However, I will suggest you proof read your post after you sober up.

avi8er

You right about all companies have their rough edges individuals. But this individual is in a league of his own. A real character. No need to proof read.

MinRest

I hear the regional donkey meat D4a is his favorite.

MinRest

The variable you don't include is that in scenario B, said pilot can just simply go list on another airline to get home, and if needed, can sit in the cockpit because he/she is CASS and actually make it home instead of being away from their family another day than they absolutely have to.

jtf560

While we can't be in the cockpit, the company will pay more for a different ticket to get you home if you need to get home. I've had them change to more expensive tickets when i saw that their plan was unlikely to work at the beginning of the day and I've had them buy me another ticket after gking oart of the way when the original connection was going to fail. I've gotten an average of about 1 after midnight a year. Most of them I could have gotten home, but I followed the contract and said I wouldn't go over 14 hours of duty. If I needed to get home instead of taking the money, I would have gotten home and there have been occasions that I went over 14 because I had to be home. I still got a little overtime at least. Most of the days that you can't would be the same days a commuter would most likely be stuck just the same when the wx shuts things down.

shrsailplanes

SCENARIO C: on the last leg of a four day trip airline pilot pulls into the gate in ATL as part of the crew. Shutdown flows and checklists are completed, walk down the jet bridge, say “bye” to the gate agent, go to your car and drive home. Outbound flight to Orlando is canceled. Fractional pilot left sitting in terminal with phone glued to head scrambling to call ops for a hotel.