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Old 03-13-2023, 09:08 PM
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The NetJets Pilot Union is warning management that they need to take more aggressive steps to attract and retain pilots.
Surveys indicate 22% of NJA pilots plan to leave within a year if contract talks are not satisfactory.
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Old 03-14-2023, 08:16 AM
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The NetJets Pilot Union is warning management that they need to take more aggressive steps to attract and retain pilots.
Surveys indicate 22% of NJA pilots plan to leave within a year if contract talks are not satisfactory.
Right now it appears as if our management is quite happy to become an airline pilot training mill....

For you job seekers out there, PLEASE don't apply to Netjets until AFTER we get a new deal. A dry well of new pilots is the only thing that will bring the company to its senses. Your banker and mine will thank you later.
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Old 03-14-2023, 09:10 PM
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What don’t people get about NJ being a springboard job? Just like FJ, it is a middle of the road job, even mediocre one. It is not nor will it ever be a destination job. Pedro’s decision to stay in NJ is mind boggling, he is a Phenom Captain when he could be living at home being a Widebody Captain at Delta. There is a lot at crap beyond the scenes we don’t know about out, Pedro and the EB are bought and paid for. NJ guys with current leadership are gonna wonder if they are seeking their best interest at heart or the $$$ interest of the EB. Bottom line, Pedro, Mark, etc, are all compromised.
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Old 03-14-2023, 09:38 PM
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What don’t people get about NJ being a springboard job? Just like FJ, it is a middle of the road job, even mediocre one. It is not nor will it ever be a destination job. Pedro’s decision to stay in NJ is mind boggling, he is a Phenom Captain when he could be living at home being a Widebody Captain at Delta. There is a lot at crap beyond the scenes we don’t know about out, Pedro and the EB are bought and paid for. NJ guys with current leadership are gonna wonder if they are seeking their best interest at heart or the $$$ interest of the EB. Bottom line, Pedro, Mark, etc, are all compromised.
Hey look, a FUD puppet.
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Old 03-15-2023, 02:17 AM
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What don’t people get about NJ being a springboard job? Just like FJ, it is a middle of the road job, even mediocre one. It is not nor will it ever be a destination job. Pedro’s decision to stay in NJ is mind boggling, he is a Phenom Captain when he could be living at home being a Widebody Captain at Delta. There is a lot at crap beyond the scenes we don’t know about out, Pedro and the EB are bought and paid for. NJ guys with current leadership are gonna wonder if they are seeking their best interest at heart or the $$$ interest of the EB. Bottom line, Pedro, Mark, etc, are all compromised.
So how many years of seniority us required for any PIC position at Delta based in ATL? ATL is senior and not JFK. He would have had to be lucky enough to be hired back when it was almost impossible to have any PIC in ATL. If he was bought and paid for we would already have a crappy deal in place and the CEO of the company wouldn't be sending letters to the pilots trying to divide the union and save Berkshire from having to provide QOL and a big pay bump. You are either a management stooge or a you are severely delusional and willfully ignoring any and all union messages that lay out the reality of the situation. I do fully admit that NetJets isn't a career destination and may never be, but I am willing to fight for massive improvements in both pay and QOL and I'm willing to burn it down trying to achieve those goals. At least it is a good time to start somewhere else if these negotiations fail to produce what is needed.
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Old 03-15-2023, 06:51 AM
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So how many years of seniority us required for any PIC position at Delta based in ATL? ATL is senior and not JFK. He would have had to be lucky enough to be hired back when it was almost impossible to have any PIC in ATL. If he was bought and paid for we would already have a crappy deal in place and the CEO of the company wouldn't be sending letters to the pilots trying to divide the union and save Berkshire from having to provide QOL and a big pay bump. You are either a management stooge or a you are severely delusional and willfully ignoring any and all union messages that lay out the reality of the situation. I do fully admit that NetJets isn't a career destination and may never be, but I am willing to fight for massive improvements in both pay and QOL and I'm willing to burn it down trying to achieve those goals. At least it is a good time to start somewhere else if these negotiations fail to produce what is needed.
about 1.5 years for Captain 717 ATL.
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What don’t people get about NJ being a springboard job? Just like FJ, it is a middle of the road job, even mediocre one. It is not nor will it ever be a destination job. Pedro’s decision to stay in NJ is mind boggling, he is a Phenom Captain when he could be living at home being a Widebody Captain at Delta. There is a lot at crap beyond the scenes we don’t know about out, Pedro and the EB are bought and paid for. NJ guys with current leadership are gonna wonder if they are seeking their best interest at heart or the $$$ interest of the EB. Bottom line, Pedro, Mark, etc, are all compromised.
This has got to be about one of the most retarded post to date I have yet to see. Granted, I think it was to just stir the pot. I routinely fly with new hires that came from the Regionals. At the time before the Regional pay bump, everyone hated the commute. The thought of doing that forever to, include main line, was too much. Granted, the money was different back then. However, I still ask and yes, they would have liked the money, but 5hey are more then happy they left. However, that pool is drying up as at the end of the day, pilots are money *****s. But even if we never eclipse Delta in pay, we only need to get close enough that the no commute and 7/7 scheduke offsets this. We were close to this in the past but now the market has change. Hopefully NetJets does too.
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But even if we never eclipse Delta in pay, we only need to get close enough that the no commute and 7/7 scheduke offsets this.
I understand about commuting, but how is the 7/7 an advantage?
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What don’t people get about NJ being a springboard job? Just like FJ, it is a middle of the road job, even mediocre one. It is not nor will it ever be a destination job. Pedro’s decision to stay in NJ is mind boggling, he is a Phenom Captain when he could be living at home being a Widebody Captain at Delta. There is a lot at crap beyond the scenes we don’t know about out, Pedro and the EB are bought and paid for. NJ guys with current leadership are gonna wonder if they are seeking their best interest at heart or the $$$ interest of the EB. Bottom line, Pedro, Mark, etc, are all compromised.
All the WB Captains have been hired at Delta.
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What will a sub 2 year upgrade do for retention....who pulls the strings on upgrades?
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