Swedepilut

I wasn’t in class but a friend of mine was. ML was never going to like the class. His whole job there was to torpedo the program and the instructors so that the union could have a whole new campaign strategy. Is the program a mess, every FSI I’ve been to has been a mess of some sort. Scheduling, instructing, but it is what it is.

He stuck in his old ways. Always has and still is. Smart guy just hasn’t realized the world has changed.

Swedepilut

Well it’s pretty simple. Accept the fact we aren’t in negotiations and move on. Make the company the most profitable we can make it. Completely reverse the script. So when it comes time for profit sharing the amount is so large that is our leverage. Remember they wanted to take profit sharing out of their offer….. so that’s something they are worried about.

All the pickets, (which have gotten really crappy lately embarrassing family instead of who they are supposed to be directed at) the signs, the driving around, all that isn’t working. Accept it. Pedro is even starting to preach it with his messages about how long the other airlines took to get a contract. They weren’t even in IBB. We are its apples and oranges and it took them years.

Get over the whole we are trying to help the company line. You’re not, everyone gets it. If the company wants to be a revolving door let them. it’s their company. Our job is to do our job. If you wanted to not go on the line then you should have gone into management not be a union member.

Just my thought but the reality is this isn’t working. Omaha was the biggest picket that nobody ever heard of. It’s getting more and more sad every picket.

Tiggerpilot

Swede, I’m having trouble understanding your logic. Your 1st paragraph says ‘move on” and allow the company to be profitable. Then your 3rd paragraph says ‘just do your job.” You can’t do both.

If folks don’t like what we’re doing in negotiations… that we should ‘turn them on their head”… then PLEASE give us some other options. If you are afraid of the cheerleaders on the message board, say them here. Or write the negotiating committee.

Saying we need to change things, then not mention a way to change things is unhelpful. Maybe most aren’t listing those ideas because once printed, they get peer reviewed. Holes get shot into those ideas and getting Monday morning quarterbacked isn’t fun. But if you REALLY want to change negotiations, that is what needs to happen. Step up.

Tiggerpilot

ML, by the way, has always been a bull in a China shop.

However, he is also the most experienced guy in the room, smart, and tenacious. He is EXACTLY who I want in negotiations. We have other negotiators fulfilling other rolls, he is fulfilling his.

Swedepilut

He is locked in his old ways. The company has changed tactics and his way of doing things from 2015 isn’t working. The economy has changed. The labor landscape has changed. The pilots have changed.

If he’s the most experienced then why do we have a new hire in there with him? What does she bring to the table beside her dad’s experience? What’s her roll? Maybe it’s to bring a different perspective because his is so out of touch? Who knows.

The reality is he was an ass in class and he was always going to be an ass so the union could have a new narrative.

Peabody17

I totally disagree with this. The pickets and other avenues the union has used have definitely pressured AB. Apparently to the point that all it takes now for him to act imprudently is a publication on his desk opened to a well-placed ad. Rather telling…

Peabody17

Really Swede? Could it maybe be that we’re preparing for negotiations in 2030, 2035, or 2040, and we want her to learn from the best?

FracCracka

How’s that working out for us at the table?

He can be as angry as he wants, he’s got a short fuse so I’d expect nothing less. What matters is that he and AJ aren’t talking to us.

ExecJet99

I agree and suggested this to my tour partner last week. We should tell the company that all is good, stop the pickets and ad’s and let’s see how much the profit sharing is worth to them. This will push them into coming back to the table before they have to pay that out in my opinion. If anything it can help the day to day work relationship on the road with the company.

Blueridger

Just to be clear. So you want to reward the company for circumventing negotiations with the Union and offering a crappy final offer by working extra hard and making them as much money as possible? That’s either brilliantly unconventional or just blatantly dumb. I think you know which one I’m leaning on….