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Old 12-11-2016 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NJA04
99% of guys don't like calling in fatigued. A large number of the fatigue calls happen because the pilot's partner told them they need to call fatigued. Yes, there is always abuse in any system. No company is immune to it. I'd guess fatigue call abuse is extremely low.
My experience has been that far more people don't call fatigued that should, rather than the other way around.
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Old 12-11-2016 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CA1900
My experience has been that far more people don't call fatigued that should, rather than the other way around.
Indeed. FAR MORE.

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Old 12-20-2016 | 12:11 PM
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I see that apc has some info that is a little outdated. Just wanted to know from you guys who are currently at NJ if the company was hiring. I have a very good friend who is a senior flight attendant for NJ and she raves about the company. She has offered to help get me an interview. I only really understand the 7/7 schedule... can anyone shed some light on the others? It would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 12-20-2016 | 03:11 PM
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^^^^ This please

I also would like to know about the other schedules
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Old 12-20-2016 | 04:41 PM
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Basic schedule that everyone can hold after training is the 7/7
Pretty straight forward....7 on, 7 off. You basically know your schedule 1 year in advance. You can bid different start days and they are awarded by seniority. Different fleets have slightly different start days.

Then you have the "CC" schedule = crew choice
They are awarded by seniority and only a certain % can be on the various schedules.
A bit period is 4 month and starts on 1 Oct.
The schedule for the "CC" is posted on the 15th of the prior month.

CC52 = 52 workdays during the above mentioned bid period.
That comes out to 13 days per month. They can go up to 15 but then one of the other 3 month has to be 11.

CC60 = 60 workdays = 15 days a month

CC72 = 72 workdays = 18 days a month

CC76 = ...well, let´s do the math :-)

Pay is obviously based on no. of workdays. The difference btw CC52 and CC76 is quite substantial.
You can also go into the scheduling website and opt for "long or short tours", ask for holidays on or of etc....all given based on demand and seniority.

Hope that helps
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Old 12-20-2016 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RhinoDriverF4F
Basic schedule that everyone can hold after training is the 7/7
Pretty straight forward....7 on, 7 off. You basically know your schedule 1 year in advance. You can bid different start days and they are awarded by seniority. Different fleets have slightly different start days.

Then you have the "CC" schedule = crew choice
They are awarded by seniority and only a certain % can be on the various schedules.
A bit period is 4 month and starts on 1 Oct.
The schedule for the "CC" is posted on the 15th of the prior month.

CC52 = 52 workdays during the above mentioned bid period.
That comes out to 13 days per month. They can go up to 15 but then one of the other 3 month has to be 11.

CC60 = 60 workdays = 15 days a month

CC72 = 72 workdays = 18 days a month

CC76 = ...well, let´s do the math :-)

Pay is obviously based on no. of workdays. The difference btw CC52 and CC76 is quite substantial.
You can also go into the scheduling website and opt for "long or short tours", ask for holidays on or of etc....all given based on demand and seniority.

Hope that helps

Yes that helps tremendously! Thanks!
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Old 12-20-2016 | 05:38 PM
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I will add that you can volunteer to work 8 day trips for a 3% pay override.

If you live in a "green base" (NYC, MIA, DFW...) and have the seniority to hold it you can bid 6 or 5 day trips.
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Old 12-20-2016 | 06:03 PM
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Does anyone know if they are still conducting interviews?
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Old 12-21-2016 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyer23
Does anyone know if they are still conducting interviews?
They are still interviewing but not in large numbers.
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Old 12-21-2016 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RhinoDriverF4F
Basic schedule that everyone can hold after training is the 7/7
Pretty straight forward....7 on, 7 off. You basically know your schedule 1 year in advance. You can bid different start days and they are awarded by seniority. Different fleets have slightly different start days.

Then you have the "CC" schedule = crew choice
They are awarded by seniority and only a certain % can be on the various schedules.
A bit period is 4 month and starts on 1 Oct.
The schedule for the "CC" is posted on the 15th of the prior month.

CC52 = 52 workdays during the above mentioned bid period.
That comes out to 13 days per month. They can go up to 15 but then one of the other 3 month has to be 11.

CC60 = 60 workdays = 15 days a month

CC72 = 72 workdays = 18 days a month

CC76 = ...well, let´s do the math :-)

Pay is obviously based on no. of workdays. The difference btw CC52 and CC76 is quite substantial.
You can also go into the scheduling website and opt for "long or short tours", ask for holidays on or of etc....all given based on demand and seniority.

Hope that helps
New hires may be required to be on the CC72 for several months before permitted to bid another schedule. This happens any time you train into a new fleet as well. 7&7 is technically not known a year in advance. Your vacations are the only sacred protected off days on that schedule until the monthly is published. Technically, any month could contain a training event and cause a work week shift. It has seriously upset those with big plans on their off days in the past. The trick is to make sure your big plans are only made for vacation periods.
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