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Old 07-11-2013, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash View Post
EDIT: Side note #2... How many street hire captains WON'T meet the 1000hr Part 121 time new requirement at Silver?
Maybe one or two, 121 experience was required when we were hiring DECs. I'm pretty sure the couple guys who didn't have prior 121 probably have 1000 here now....we would hope.

(Don't kill me, I'm just recalling from memory.)
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mexipilot84 View Post
Yep that's why a lot of FOs like myself will be disappointed when we can't upgrade now, many like myself will bail. DECs can't be bumped down.
Where is it written that DEC's cant get bumped? I think they want to believe that.

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DECs can't be bumped down? I'm one of them and I'm not so sure about that. People will have displacement rights, so I guess it just depends on how the numbers work out. On a different note, I heard that our CP just hired a street captain on the Saab. Confirmed by our illustrious union!
Didnt the union confirm the CP being fired last week? How'd that turn out again?
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:18 AM
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DEC can be pushed down unless the number of captain positions is reduced, which may be as BIL is closing ... With the new staffing bid is there a reduction of captain positions needed to run the bid. ? That will answer for the DEC folks ,... They can be pushed out of base tho ...
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:43 AM
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The union has told me and several others like mentioned they can't be pushed out of the left seat unless a reduction in flying happens. We're losing BIL but I don't think any DEC will be bumped off. There's an add on in GNV and CLE. I can confirm one that has no previous SIC 121 time, he's pretty much toast. Now question is can saab DECs be bumped off the Saab into the 1900?
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:44 AM
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They want an updated resume' ? Whats up with that?
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:53 AM
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That's a first
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:11 PM
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Just make sure it's a really updated resume. Like my objective is; Obtain a first office position fo' yo' momma air
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:26 PM
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Stuff's gettn all weird round here....
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Propspilot View Post
Where is it written that DEC's cant get bumped? I think they want to believe that.



Didnt the union confirm the CP being fired last week? How'd that turn out again?
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DEC can be pushed down unless the number of captain positions is reduced, which may be as BIL is closing ... With the new staffing bid is there a reduction of captain positions needed to run the bid. ? That will answer for the DEC folks ,... They can be pushed out of base tho ...
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The union has told me and several others like mentioned they can't be pushed out of the left seat unless a reduction in flying happens. We're losing BIL but I don't think any DEC will be bumped off. There's an add on in GNV and CLE. I can confirm one that has no previous SIC 121 time, he's pretty much toast. Now question is can saab DECs be bumped off the Saab into the 1900?
Don't shoot the messenger but READ YOUR contract. How a staffing bid is to be executed is in your contract. The contract clearly states that a "staffing bid can ONLY be used to fill vacancies". Thus, the added vacancies in CLE and GNV plus any NOT currently filled.

The ONLY people who can bump another person from their base or seat is a person with displacement rights. These will be the BIL's guys. The way displacement works is a trickle down effect. Thus, if a BIL guy bumps a FLL guy then the FLL guy gets displacement rights...so on and so forth. How this bid will work (i.e. how FLICA will process it) will be to start from the top. They will take all the BIL guys and give them what they want / can hold, then all those displaced guys will get what they want until all the displacement rights have been awarded. THEN EVERYONE else will get what they want per the remaining VACANCIES with NO DISPLACING.

As far as bypass pay... You CAN NOT receive BYPASS pay per the staffing bid unless you have displacement rights and were not awarded a CA slot you could hold or they HIRED more DEC's. This is because again the staffing bid is a vacancy only bid.

This is all predicated on the company following the contract......
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:28 PM
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I wonder how many FOs are gonna send in the same ones they sent to other airlines...even with the other company in the objective haha
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