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07-11-2013, 09:26 AM
#3541
THE BEAN KICKED IN
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: Rollin' Down tha 405
Posts: 2,474
Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash
EDIT: Side note #2... How many street hire captains WON'T meet the 1000hr Part 121 time new requirement at Silver?
(Don't kill me, I'm just recalling from memory.)
07-11-2013, 10:15 AM
#3542
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Posts: 101
Originally Posted by mexipilot84
Yep that's why a lot of FOs like myself will be disappointed when we can't upgrade now, many like myself will bail. DECs can't be bumped down.
Originally Posted by flightmedic01
DECs can't be bumped down? I'm one of them and I'm not so sure about that. People will have displacement rights, so I guess it just depends on how the numbers work out. On a different note, I heard that our CP just hired a street captain on the Saab. Confirmed by our illustrious union!
07-11-2013, 10:18 AM
#3543
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: Airbus 320 Right Seat
Posts: 1,436
DEC can be pushed down unless the number of captain positions is reduced, which may be as BIL is closing ... With the new staffing bid is there a reduction of captain positions needed to run the bid. ? That will answer for the DEC folks ,... They can be pushed out of base tho ...
07-11-2013, 10:43 AM
#3544
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Gear Handle supervisor
Posts: 1,033
The union has told me and several others like mentioned they can't be pushed out of the left seat unless a reduction in flying happens. We're losing BIL but I don't think any DEC will be bumped off. There's an add on in GNV and CLE. I can confirm one that has no previous SIC 121 time, he's pretty much toast. Now question is can saab DECs be bumped off the Saab into the 1900?
07-11-2013, 01:01 PM
#3549
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Joined APC: Jan 2012
Position: I'm Buying
Posts: 416
Originally Posted by Propspilot
Where is it written that DEC's cant get bumped? I think they want to believe that.
Didnt the union confirm the CP being fired last week? How'd that turn out again?
Didnt the union confirm the CP being fired last week? How'd that turn out again?
Originally Posted by rightside02
DEC can be pushed down unless the number of captain positions is reduced, which may be as BIL is closing ... With the new staffing bid is there a reduction of captain positions needed to run the bid. ? That will answer for the DEC folks ,... They can be pushed out of base tho ...
Originally Posted by mexipilot84
The union has told me and several others like mentioned they can't be pushed out of the left seat unless a reduction in flying happens. We're losing BIL but I don't think any DEC will be bumped off. There's an add on in GNV and CLE. I can confirm one that has no previous SIC 121 time, he's pretty much toast. Now question is can saab DECs be bumped off the Saab into the 1900?
The ONLY people who can bump another person from their base or seat is a person with displacement rights. These will be the BIL's guys. The way displacement works is a trickle down effect. Thus, if a BIL guy bumps a FLL guy then the FLL guy gets displacement rights...so on and so forth. How this bid will work (i.e. how FLICA will process it) will be to start from the top. They will take all the BIL guys and give them what they want / can hold, then all those displaced guys will get what they want until all the displacement rights have been awarded. THEN EVERYONE else will get what they want per the remaining VACANCIES with NO DISPLACING.
As far as bypass pay... You CAN NOT receive BYPASS pay per the staffing bid unless you have displacement rights and were not awarded a CA slot you could hold or they HIRED more DEC's. This is because again the staffing bid is a vacancy only bid.
This is all predicated on the company following the contract......
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