Silver Airways
11-15-2013, 03:49 PM
#4791
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Just curious, how many FOs do we have that are short on the 1000 121sic time that's required in order to bid for the staffing that would otherwise be able to hold CA? I imagine our seniority list getting even smaller when upgrades are snatched right of their hands...
11-15-2013, 04:15 PM
#4792
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
I see the seniority list every month there really isn't much change.
Looking long term. Lots of movement.
Between the last bid pack before I went on leave this summer and the December bid pack, I've jumped 20 numbers - roughly 4 a month.
Compared to the same time last year when I only moved up about 8 spots, I'd say the change is there.
Attrition above my seniority has roughly doubled from this time last year... who knows about attrition below me.
11-15-2013, 07:45 PM
#4793
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
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Originally Posted by ctab5060X
Looking at it month to month there won't be much of a change.
Looking long term. Lots of movement.
Between the last bid pack before I went on leave this summer and the December bid pack, I've jumped 20 numbers - roughly 4 a month.
Compared to the same time last year when I only moved up about 8 spots, I'd say the change is there.
Attrition above my seniority has roughly doubled from this time last year... who knows about attrition below me.
Looking long term. Lots of movement.
Between the last bid pack before I went on leave this summer and the December bid pack, I've jumped 20 numbers - roughly 4 a month.
Compared to the same time last year when I only moved up about 8 spots, I'd say the change is there.
Attrition above my seniority has roughly doubled from this time last year... who knows about attrition below me.
11-15-2013, 07:49 PM
#4794
Respek
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,603
If things keep going the way they are I wouldn't be surprised if you see more DEC not just here but at other carriers with massive rapid captain attrition. The new ATP rule dropping for college grads helps but if attrition is quick enough that 1000 121 for upgrade is really guna rustle up these low tier regionals. This is all my worthless opinion though 
11-15-2013, 10:17 PM
#4795
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Posts: 2,883
Silver Airways
Since starting in July 2012 and the latest bid pack, I've moved up 51 numbers. That's roughly 3 numbers a month. The sooner the Company realizes that they aren't competing against Great Lakes and Commutair, the better off they'll be.
11-16-2013, 04:57 AM
#4796
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Something no one has mentioned but I think is also a large factor. The list shrinks every month (226 total last month, 224 total this month) and this has been the case for several months, all while running at least one class a month. They can't hire as fast as we loose guys. That's not good for anyone, FO upgrades, the company, growth expectations etc. I believe the new management coming in wants and is attempting to right the ship but they have two major problems on their hands. This company must grow to become profitable, however is unable to even entertain the idea of growth right now do to not being able to hire and keep guys. I hate to say but this may be the dagger in the heart to the guys wanting upgrade. You can't upgrade if you can't fill the right seat...
11-17-2013, 04:38 AM
#4798
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I am going to be about 5 hours short for the required 1,000 121, and I wasn't going to be able to even bid for upgrade, and I heard anyone claiming they have the 1,000 and don't, will be fired for lying on a government document, no matter how short they are.
11-17-2013, 04:49 AM
#4799
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
I am going to be about 5 hours short for the required 1,000 121, and I wasn't going to be able to even bid for upgrade, and I heard anyone claiming they have the 1,000 and don't, will be fired for lying on a government document, no matter how short they are.
Solution: Pick up open time ASAP.
11-17-2013, 05:33 AM
#4800
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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
I am going to be about 5 hours short for the required 1,000 121, and I wasn't going to be able to even bid for upgrade, and I heard anyone claiming they have the 1,000 and don't, will be fired for lying on a government document, no matter how short they are.
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