Silver Airways
#5301
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
#5302
#5303
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2013
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Here is the problem.
I don't know what this LOA says, but it would seem it can only be designed to poach pilots from other airlines. Maybe or maybe not it is a good enough deal to accomplish that goal.
But it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of talent in the pipeline. There is nobody in the pipeline. The best deal in the world doesn't solve the pipeline problem. In order to solve the pipeline problem, starting salaries need to be about $50,000/yr across all regional airlines. That will get pilots into the pipeline, but even then, you are 3 years out from seeing the benefits.
I'm afraid all that can really happen to solve the immediate problem is this. Small carriers like Silver and GLA must go out of business, the pilots get absorbed into larger players, and the aircraft currently being flown by said carriers get parked in the desert.
There is no immediate solution, I can't see this unfolding any other way. I can't see how airline management or the industry as a whole doesn't see this, if they don't, its incompetence. You can't wish something into existence.
This is the 'leading edge' of the issue, its just getting started.
I don't know what this LOA says, but it would seem it can only be designed to poach pilots from other airlines. Maybe or maybe not it is a good enough deal to accomplish that goal.
But it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of talent in the pipeline. There is nobody in the pipeline. The best deal in the world doesn't solve the pipeline problem. In order to solve the pipeline problem, starting salaries need to be about $50,000/yr across all regional airlines. That will get pilots into the pipeline, but even then, you are 3 years out from seeing the benefits.
I'm afraid all that can really happen to solve the immediate problem is this. Small carriers like Silver and GLA must go out of business, the pilots get absorbed into larger players, and the aircraft currently being flown by said carriers get parked in the desert.
There is no immediate solution, I can't see this unfolding any other way. I can't see how airline management or the industry as a whole doesn't see this, if they don't, its incompetence. You can't wish something into existence.
This is the 'leading edge' of the issue, its just getting started.
#5305
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Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 442
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Here is the problem.
I don't know what this LOA says, but it would seem it can only be designed to poach pilots from other airlines. Maybe or maybe not it is a good enough deal to accomplish that goal.
But it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of talent in the pipeline. There is nobody in the pipeline. The best deal in the world doesn't solve the pipeline problem. In order to solve the pipeline problem, starting salaries need to be about $50,000/yr across all regional airlines. That will get pilots into the pipeline, but even then, you are 3 years out from seeing the benefits.
I'm afraid all that can really happen to solve the immediate problem is this. Small carriers like Silver and GLA must go out of business, the pilots get absorbed into larger players, and the aircraft currently being flown by said carriers get parked in the desert.
There is no immediate solution, I can't see this unfolding any other way. I can't see how airline management or the industry as a whole doesn't see this, if they don't, its incompetence. You can't wish something into existence.
This is the 'leading edge' of the issue, its just getting started.
I don't know what this LOA says, but it would seem it can only be designed to poach pilots from other airlines. Maybe or maybe not it is a good enough deal to accomplish that goal.
But it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of talent in the pipeline. There is nobody in the pipeline. The best deal in the world doesn't solve the pipeline problem. In order to solve the pipeline problem, starting salaries need to be about $50,000/yr across all regional airlines. That will get pilots into the pipeline, but even then, you are 3 years out from seeing the benefits.
I'm afraid all that can really happen to solve the immediate problem is this. Small carriers like Silver and GLA must go out of business, the pilots get absorbed into larger players, and the aircraft currently being flown by said carriers get parked in the desert.
There is no immediate solution, I can't see this unfolding any other way. I can't see how airline management or the industry as a whole doesn't see this, if they don't, its incompetence. You can't wish something into existence.
This is the 'leading edge' of the issue, its just getting started.
#5306
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 853
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[QUOTE=tom11011;1575719]Here is the problem.
I don't know what this LOA says, but it would seem it can only be designed to poach pilots from other airlines. Maybe or maybe not it is a good enough deal to accomplish that goal.
But it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of talent in the pipeline. There is nobody in the pipeline. The best deal in the world doesn't solve the pipeline problem. In order to solve the pipeline problem, starting salaries need to be about $50,000/yr across all regional airlines. That will get pilots into the pipeline, but even then, you are 3 years out from seeing the benefits.
I'm afraid all that can really happen to solve the immediate problem is this. Small carriers like Silver and GLA must go out of business, the pilots get absorbed into larger players, and the aircraft currently being flown by said carriers get parked in the desert.
There is no immediate solution, I can't see this unfolding any other way. I can't see how airline management or the industry as a whole doesn't see this, if they don't, its incompetence. You can't wish something into existence.
This is the 'leading edge' of the issue, its just getting started.[/B]
I think management is smart enough to see the issue unfolding, yet isn't doing what we expected to solve it. That's what worries me. I think they're counting on regulation changes again to solve their staffing issues. 1500 hr requirement goes away and you have a much larger pool of pilots over night. Management has money, and that's the only thing that counts in Washington.
I don't know what this LOA says, but it would seem it can only be designed to poach pilots from other airlines. Maybe or maybe not it is a good enough deal to accomplish that goal.
But it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of talent in the pipeline. There is nobody in the pipeline. The best deal in the world doesn't solve the pipeline problem. In order to solve the pipeline problem, starting salaries need to be about $50,000/yr across all regional airlines. That will get pilots into the pipeline, but even then, you are 3 years out from seeing the benefits.
I'm afraid all that can really happen to solve the immediate problem is this. Small carriers like Silver and GLA must go out of business, the pilots get absorbed into larger players, and the aircraft currently being flown by said carriers get parked in the desert.
There is no immediate solution, I can't see this unfolding any other way. I can't see how airline management or the industry as a whole doesn't see this, if they don't, its incompetence. You can't wish something into existence.
This is the 'leading edge' of the issue, its just getting started.[/B]
I think management is smart enough to see the issue unfolding, yet isn't doing what we expected to solve it. That's what worries me. I think they're counting on regulation changes again to solve their staffing issues. 1500 hr requirement goes away and you have a much larger pool of pilots over night. Management has money, and that's the only thing that counts in Washington.
#5307
To be honest, this is something I've been waiting to see for MONTHS. I had all but given up on management here but this is at least SOMETHING positive (with regards to new pilot recruitment).
#5309
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 3,145
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[QUOTE=fullflank;1575761]
In this particular case, the change were the result of congress, not the FAA. We all know how easily congress agrees to things.
Here is the problem.
I don't know what this LOA says, but it would seem it can only be designed to poach pilots from other airlines. Maybe or maybe not it is a good enough deal to accomplish that goal.
But it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of talent in the pipeline. There is nobody in the pipeline. The best deal in the world doesn't solve the pipeline problem. In order to solve the pipeline problem, starting salaries need to be about $50,000/yr across all regional airlines. That will get pilots into the pipeline, but even then, you are 3 years out from seeing the benefits.
I'm afraid all that can really happen to solve the immediate problem is this. Small carriers like Silver and GLA must go out of business, the pilots get absorbed into larger players, and the aircraft currently being flown by said carriers get parked in the desert.
There is no immediate solution, I can't see this unfolding any other way. I can't see how airline management or the industry as a whole doesn't see this, if they don't, its incompetence. You can't wish something into existence.
This is the 'leading edge' of the issue, its just getting started.[/B]
I think management is smart enough to see the issue unfolding, yet isn't doing what we expected to solve it. That's what worries me. I think they're counting on regulation changes again to solve their staffing issues. 1500 hr requirement goes away and you have a much larger pool of pilots over night. Management has money, and that's the only thing that counts in Washington.
I don't know what this LOA says, but it would seem it can only be designed to poach pilots from other airlines. Maybe or maybe not it is a good enough deal to accomplish that goal.
But it doesn't solve the problem of the lack of talent in the pipeline. There is nobody in the pipeline. The best deal in the world doesn't solve the pipeline problem. In order to solve the pipeline problem, starting salaries need to be about $50,000/yr across all regional airlines. That will get pilots into the pipeline, but even then, you are 3 years out from seeing the benefits.
I'm afraid all that can really happen to solve the immediate problem is this. Small carriers like Silver and GLA must go out of business, the pilots get absorbed into larger players, and the aircraft currently being flown by said carriers get parked in the desert.
There is no immediate solution, I can't see this unfolding any other way. I can't see how airline management or the industry as a whole doesn't see this, if they don't, its incompetence. You can't wish something into existence.
This is the 'leading edge' of the issue, its just getting started.[/B]
I think management is smart enough to see the issue unfolding, yet isn't doing what we expected to solve it. That's what worries me. I think they're counting on regulation changes again to solve their staffing issues. 1500 hr requirement goes away and you have a much larger pool of pilots over night. Management has money, and that's the only thing that counts in Washington.
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