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Old 04-26-2018, 10:23 AM
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More room for me to apply!
This is why pilots can’t have nice things.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:31 PM
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When I started in Alaska over 20 years ago, the first company I worked for plain told pilots that they didn't want you here after a year. The pay after a year went from 30 bucks a flight hour to 35 bucks a flight hour. It was more economical to them to get rid of the higher paid pilots and get newbies that do not get paid so much.

Training was minimal at the least and as long as you didn't crash during the check ride, you passed.

The second company I worked for would just fire their pilots during their 11th month of employment.

The third company I worked for fired pilots in their 6th or 7th month of employment and gave bad employment reviews.

None of these companies are still in existence.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:36 PM
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Ah, yes, I believe in Aviation there is a word for people who do things like this.

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and his white picket fence
Do things like what? Appreciating the fact that a company allows a pilot with such low time to get a jump start on their career? Some may have forgot, but we’ve all been in that position when you finish up your commercial and you just want to get to work, but find that even after all the training and debt you still can’t get a job and you can hardly afford to hang on to your certificates.

Don’t get me wrong, I feel bad for those that are losing pay, and it’s probably less than they deserve. I am only celebrating the fact that more pilots with ATP mins under there belt will be moving on to bigger and better places due to this cut (you’d be crazy not to if you take a quick browse through this websites airline profiles) which then provides more opportunities for another low time pilot to start their career.

In this day, people gotta do just about anything to get their career in aviation started. Not saying I would, but I guarantee people would still apply for an FO spot if the pay was cut to a Happy Meal.
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Old 04-26-2018, 05:43 PM
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So sic positions are for the 1900 and the van. How difficult would it be to get into the 1900? I like the van, but I was hoping to get multi time
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Old 04-26-2018, 06:13 PM
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What are the rates now without the housing bonus?
They are removing the housing allowance altogether, so $261/day.
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They are removing the housing allowance altogether, so $261/day.

Wow, total BS. How did Van CAs make out?
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Old 04-26-2018, 07:55 PM
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So sic positions are for the 1900 and the van. How difficult would it be to get into the 1900? I like the van, but I was hoping to get multi time

It’s really up to what the company needs at the time. It’s bound to become more difficult to get into the 1900 now. Given the fact that guys who have to put in 6 months with the company will probably be bidding on all the 1900 openings. I would rather build 100 hours a month multi turbine time at 205 a day rather than 50 hours a month single engine for 260.
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Old 04-26-2018, 08:03 PM
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Wow, total BS. How did Van CAs make out?
A van driver with 3 years of seniority and who commutes and lives in company housing goes from $374/day to $315/day, or around a loss of $10,600 per year.

A local who get the housing allowance but doesn't pay "rent" goes from $385/day to $315/day, or around a loss of $12,600 per year.
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So sic positions are for the 1900 and the van. How difficult would it be to get into the 1900? I like the van, but I was hoping to get multi time
[QUOTE=BushBuster69;2581088]A van driver with 3 years of seniority and who commutes and lives in company housing goes from $374/day to $315/day, or around a loss of $10,600 per year.

A local who get the housing allowance but doesn't pay "rent" goes from $385/day to $315/day, or around a loss of $12,600 per year.[/QUOTE

What a slap in the face
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Originally Posted by BushBuster69 View Post
A van driver with 3 years of seniority and who commutes and lives in company housing goes from $374/day to $315/day, or around a loss of $10,600 per year.

A local who get the housing allowance but doesn't pay "rent" goes from $385/day to $315/day, or around a loss of $12,600 per year.
Ugh, I’m sorry. Fortunately everyone is hiring for those who want out.
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