:confused:Will AmFlight look at anyone with 1350TT 400Multi?

They'll look at anyone with 135mins. The key is getting your resume past the stack of 1000's S. Hudson has on her desk. Get creative ;)

Instead of asking people on a forum why dont you just send it and see the results. Seems like a waste of time to ask someone who has no idea themselfs

themselves*

I was hired about a year ago with 1250tt, and 350 multi. I got called the day after I applied. I think they care more about previous experience then hours.

Yeah I ask people on this fourm because they are in the grind and know more about the company than I can read from the web site. Thanks for the response propJ and Luv2.... Yall arent on the KRDD runs up here are you??

I was hired about 10 months ago and I just got "transitioned" to the BE99 for an outstation back east. I was hired with 1450TT and 250 ME and no prior 135 exp, just CFI'ing. I did, however, have a recommendation from another pilot who knew the VP of Flight Ops.

Side Note:

"172Captain," I would ask people how the interview process was because if everyone being hired has 10,000 Turbine PIC, I would not even waste my time (The nature of AMF's schedule does that enough without me doing it further). I am also not sure about how many people will take your professional advice to heart with a name like "172Captain" w/ 400TT. Sorry for the rant, but just my $0.02. This industry degrades the pilot community enough without the pilots doing it to each other.

Well Put, Thanks brother!

What is the typical showtime before departure? Does this vary based on the type of airplane you're flying? Also, do you do most of the flight planning or do they have dispatchers that do it?

The standard show time is one (1) hour before the scheduled departure time. We have center-stored ("canned") flight plans. If there is an ad hoc, special, or a/c repo flight the pilot has the ability to file it themselves or have dispatch do it for them.

How is AMF going? Any hiring or growth expected over the next year or so? Also, i hear most new hires going to Burbank and Oakland... is there any base transfer once you are in place?

f16. They have a class starting monday. Dozen or so guys. People leave the company here and there (I don't have numbers) but get your 135 mins and turn in a resume.

Socalskip, word from BUR is pilots around your times were hired recently.

May have already been posted, but what is usually covered in week 1? Any suggestions on ground school?

Thx!

Week 1 involves indoctrination. Indoc. involves a summarization of instrument procedures, WX, Part 61, 91, 135 regs, and you go over the Operations Manual.

Thanks UND. Is there a test of some sort on the first day of indoc?

No, not on the first day. The test is on Friday at the end of your first week. The test involves material that was discussed during indoc. They also give you study material on the side that goes over some material that is from the AIM. I can't remember if that information was on the test, but to be safe I would look at that also.

I’m trying not to create any stress, but it is one of those tests that you have to pass in order to continue on with training. I can't remember, but I think you need a 70% to pass and it ranges from 20-30 questions. Sorry I can't remember the exact number.

It's really easy though. I've only heard of some time building FO's that have failed it.

Just because it's easy doesn't mean they shouldn't study.

I'd be shocked in this industry if someone had a shot at a job, that they wouldn't study

O I agree completely. I'm just saying if you fail this test you obviously didn't study, and it shows a complete lack of motivation. But if you do study it is nothing to worry about.

so i got the call again from amflight. i was called before the downturn and then cancelled. but to make a long story short its on again. i was told oakland is pretty open cause the cost of living is high there and pilots dont care to much for that. so i guess my question is alot of people say you go out early morn and come back late afternoon. whats this mean out a 5am and in at 9pm or a little less of a day. does anybody know how oakland is. fun or what. i live in san diego. and one last question it seems you make like 28000 to start, but is there a 10% increase a yr if you go turbine. so if anybody has answer would like to hear them. for people thats wondering 1650 tt 350 mutli w 135 time
thanks

good info, thanks for the update. good luck to you

cflight, if you've haven't already searched, there are some posts back around 1/28/10, around page 75, that discuss the schedule, etc.

For a short while I used to live in the SF Bay area and I can say that some parts of Oakland are not that safe. Living in Alameda, (fun, hip urban neighborhood), Hayward or Fremont (reasonably close to airport) or Livermore (more reasonable rent prices, but a 35-45 min commute and not as much to do) might be better options for you to consider.

10 percent annual turbine retention bonus for type rated planes, 7 percent bonus for the BE99 (year one with the company excluded). Click on "airline profiles" in the top right corner for details.

LOL, that's an understatement!

As someone Bay Area born and raised I would agree with the rest. As far as living goes avoid most of Oakland if you are not from there. Some blocks are totally fine, others you just don't go anywhere near. Unless you have spent a lot of time there you won't know how to tell the difference. Personally, I think most of Oakland does not deserve the reputation it has, but for some areas, it's far worse than you could imagine.

If you want a decent place close to the airport, Alameda is probably your best bet. Otherwise, most of Hayward is alright, I'm partial to Emeryville or Berkeley (having been born there), but a lot don't like it there. You'll either love it or hate it there it seems.

Re the furlough-ees, they've all been called back. I think all or most of them came back, and are either in training or on the line except (again, I think) for one guy who's out of the country. They ran a new-hire ground school class this week.

Are there any first year AMF pilots here that would mind sharing what they bring home after taxes and what not?

monthly or annually? you know there's a payscale on this forum. roughly you're looking at high 20's

Yes I can't seem to find that particular forum and I looked through this one I think almost every page. but I am looking for a close to exact number either monthly or bi- weekly as I am considering a job there

Gross First Year Pay:
-(40 units per week guaranteed @ $13.40 per unit) = $27,872 ($28,000 advertised)
-$27,872 / 26 weeks (biweekly paychecks = $1,072 Gross per paycheck

Take Home:
-Basic Health Ins package (~$50 per paycheck)
-Single Male with ALL legal deductions on W-4 form (no tax refund or taxes due in April)

*Biweekly Paycheck = $865.74 every payday like clockwork*

Extra units (flying more than your normal run) = 1.5 * block time OR 1* Clock time (which ever gives you more pay)

Yeah, after my furlough I made more on unemployment. :(

Yeah, but you still accepted the job. :)

Catch 22 Time!!!!

By taking the job, you are contributing to why this industry pays pilots so little and requires so much (training, responsibility, time commitment, etc.). It is quite simple why they do it when you take the free market approach..... BECAUSE THEY CAN and pilots will still keep coming.

By not taking the job, you are still unemployed thus, not building any flight time and probably losing whatever currency you had before. The longer you stay out of flying, the longer it is that you will likely remain out of flying. Not to mention the commercial pilot newbees who will jump at ANY pilot job (see below)

The problem in our industry that pilots (myself included) continuously complain about is the lack of pay and maltreatment toward the pilot community however, pilots (Getting a pilot job-itis overshadows the fact that the job is ABSOLUTE crap besides the flying) continue to flock to these excessively oppressive flying gigs for pennies.

"Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't"

Just my humble $0.02 observation

Well yes and no. AMF was the 1st gig. Great experience, great people and great schedule. then moved on to 121 (F'd) now corporate looking to get back into 121 since our schedule changed and pay decreased. :confused:
Unemployment was when I was between jobs coming out of 121 world. I'd love to go back to AMF! Only if pay were low-mid 30's starting.

Hey It beats Instructing right?

I don't know:
1) Why more people don't really enjoy being a flight instructor. I loved it and would love to go back to it full time to make a living. ...and
2) Why people that don't enjoy it will even do it. I'm sure that's just wonderful for their students.:rolleyes:

-mini

Lol the same reason those same pilots flock to low paying, crap QOL, maltreatment infused regional airline gigs. ("Get-a-real-flying-job" itis). The industry noticed this trend and decided to supply those types of jobs and, pilots needing to get into the industry somehow, enabled the industry to keep supplying these jobs by accepting the terms that went along with the cool flying.

They do it because the price of saying "NO!!!!!" comes at too high of a cost to pilots. "No," pretty much means surrendering your foothold in the industry to three or four other lower time pilots who would gladly do the job for free let alone get paid pennies for it. It really is a question of each person in the situation, "Will I stand up for what I really believe pilots should be paid and turn down the job or will I surrender to their terms and accept the job to get into the industry?"

Until enough of the pilot community is mistreated by the market place, the problem for us lower totem poll-ers will continue. I don't knock the airline industry for it, that's the free market economy (well, close to it anyways). I'd rather it this way then Nazi-Germany Style, at least we (we meaning the target market for their jobs {ie. pilots}) control the overall trend.

Slightly off topic, sorry guys!

Amf is a nice company to work for. Someone in an earlier post asked "who is paying you to say that" regarding their training program.....well, it could be more organized, much more organized. None the less, not too bad.

Where do Amflight pilots end up? After flying be99 for a year do they end up at Southwest like the company claims? I just want to know what is the next step from Amflight?