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04-16-2015 | 10:16 PM
#2471
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Quick Qs:
- for the PA31 Upgrade program, is the time built higher than the typical Ameriflight "3-4 hr/dy; 50-70 hr/mo."?
- are positions available at the HWD base?
- assuming the... umh, "reverse-pay internship" for BE-99 and BE-1900 is still in place, are there any positions for those in HWD? What about BUR or PDX?
I have an ATP written valid till July 2016 and I'm seriously considering getting the hours for the checkride by the deadline. My total time is low for the PA31 Upgrade (~650) but is lots of "quality time": all PF time, 500+ PIC, 100+ multi PIC, lots of IFR / high perf / complex, King Air 200 sim initial (w/ high alt endorsement), valid 1st medical, FCC etc.
Thanks,
AB
- for the PA31 Upgrade program, is the time built higher than the typical Ameriflight "3-4 hr/dy; 50-70 hr/mo."?
- are positions available at the HWD base?
- assuming the... umh, "reverse-pay internship" for BE-99 and BE-1900 is still in place, are there any positions for those in HWD? What about BUR or PDX?
I have an ATP written valid till July 2016 and I'm seriously considering getting the hours for the checkride by the deadline. My total time is low for the PA31 Upgrade (~650) but is lots of "quality time": all PF time, 500+ PIC, 100+ multi PIC, lots of IFR / high perf / complex, King Air 200 sim initial (w/ high alt endorsement), valid 1st medical, FCC etc.
Thanks,
AB
The PA31 upgrade program is flying on normal runs, so the amount of time you get would be in the ballpark of every other run.
04-18-2015 | 06:13 AM
#2472
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From: single pilot cargo, turboprop
Am I the only Ameriflighter excited about this? I don't care if it's taxed 50% and only for a year, it's free money. I think overall, it will work to the companies advantage, 4 months is just often enough to get pilots to say "maybe a little longer..." And amf doesn't write a check unless those pilots stay.
I think this was a smart move. Pay is one of the few things upper management can directly control, so between this retention bonus and the pay bump we got 7ish months ago, I'd say they are doing a solid job.
Many of us have career goals beyond Ameriflight, but bonuses like this make it much easier to hang out longer. Call me a sell out, but what can I say? I'm a pilot.
I think this was a smart move. Pay is one of the few things upper management can directly control, so between this retention bonus and the pay bump we got 7ish months ago, I'd say they are doing a solid job.
Many of us have career goals beyond Ameriflight, but bonuses like this make it much easier to hang out longer. Call me a sell out, but what can I say? I'm a pilot.
04-18-2015 | 12:59 PM
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Not likely. We usually don't have a problem getting guys to transition to the 120. But if you would be willing to come in as a direct metro or BE1900 hire, you would probably be able to transition up to the 120 in about a year or less.
04-22-2015 | 09:37 AM
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Like other typed aircraft positions, the possibility of a direct hire is inversely proportional to how difficult it is to fill the position internally.
04-22-2015 | 06:39 PM
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BFI has 2 1900 runs, both of which are outstationed and have been filled within the year. I imagine those guys will be on them for awhile. There are no metro runs. There are metro reserve positions only. The am metro reserve flies quite a bit for overflow in the mornings, but they are usually out and back trips and then you're done. You would be more likely to hold that position than a 1900 run at this point, but who know with the way people are leaving these days.
04-23-2015 | 02:55 AM
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If you are staying at AMF rather than going to a 121 carrier because of this bonus, please do yourself a favor and call some of your 121 friends. Ask them if they would give up 4 months of seniority for $3000. I will guarantee that in this hiring environment, there is no one that would say that they would.
The Kool-Aid is strong at AMF. People there really thing that the turbine time in old turboprops really counts for something in the eyes of the 121 majors. They think that they will get hired at American/Delta/United before the regional captains that have 8 years in 121 with 10,000 hours TT and 5000 hours of PIC Jet time. It just isn't the case.
I learned a lot about flying at AMF, but one of the first things that I learned in the 121 world is that the time at AMF counts for nothing once you leave 135. There are guys with over 10,000 PIC Jet that are just getting called by the majors. Someone with a couple thousand hours in a Metro doesn't stand a chance.
If you are planning on going corporate, AMF is fine. Some places like the single pilot IFR in old turboprops. But the 121's want experience with airplanes that are similar to what they fly - glass with automation, passengers in the back, highly regimented, and in a crew environment.
The Kool-Aid is strong at AMF. People there really thing that the turbine time in old turboprops really counts for something in the eyes of the 121 majors. They think that they will get hired at American/Delta/United before the regional captains that have 8 years in 121 with 10,000 hours TT and 5000 hours of PIC Jet time. It just isn't the case.
I learned a lot about flying at AMF, but one of the first things that I learned in the 121 world is that the time at AMF counts for nothing once you leave 135. There are guys with over 10,000 PIC Jet that are just getting called by the majors. Someone with a couple thousand hours in a Metro doesn't stand a chance.
If you are planning on going corporate, AMF is fine. Some places like the single pilot IFR in old turboprops. But the 121's want experience with airplanes that are similar to what they fly - glass with automation, passengers in the back, highly regimented, and in a crew environment.
04-26-2015 | 02:19 PM
#2479
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From: BE20/LR-JET Right Seat
Anyone over at AMF know if there are any EMB-120 FO spots available? 1000tt pt135 Lear Jet typed here. Just not getting that much flight time per month. Looking for a good way to get to that 1500. Figured id see what kind of SIC options there were
04-30-2015 | 12:00 PM
#2480
Always on vacation
Joined: Jan 2015
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From: CFII/MEI
flyboy275, you may wanna go elsewhere but the EMB-120. Ameriflight is a great company, but those 2 guys that run the emb 120 program ( P.R and I.D ) can be 2 a**holes when it comes to send you to the check ride... unless u know someone up in the "food-chain"...
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