Simple, because Caravan time can take you only so far in this industry :p

I'm not sure where you were based, Jetlife, or when. And I'll admit, I have seen some times where mx has been an issue. But that was about 10 years ago.

Now, I have only been assigned to one base, but the mx here has been pretty good. If something is broke, you write it up, it gets fixed. Or MEL'd until they can GET it fixed. No problems. And I know the ACP in DFW takes a very dim view of mx trying to talk a pilot into NOT writing something up.

Wow. A whole $1K per year. (Less than $100 per month.) And that's if you don't move into a typed plane in your first year.

Oh, wait. Martinaire doesn't have that many typed planes.

I realize AMF hasn't updated their pay scale in 7 years. And I know talk is cheap. But there have been many changes in the company structure since the change in ownership. And other than the announcement of the move of the corporate HQ to DFW they have been minor (polo shirts as an option to the pilot uniform, several additional jump seat agreements, moving the POV mileage out of the 1980s from $0.26 per mile to $0.56 per mile.) But there HAVE been changes, so I think the talk of the pay scale changing in the near future is pretty credible. From what I have heard it is more than just an increase within the current structure and so it is taking longer than just printing a new pay chart to get it up and running.

That has become normal if you have the right experience. You should be able to talk your way into whatever base you want as well.

In almost a year I haven't seen or heard of anything that would qualify as anything but great maintinence. The planes are old and tired so they do get written up pretty regularly, but they are fixed or MEL'd and flown legally and safely if possible. I've never had anyone try to pressure me into not writing something up, waiting to write something up until at a mx base, or flying something illegally like you hear about at other 135 freight outfits.

You know dang well the FAA has come down on AMF for deferring items for 90 days and fixing them on the 89th day while the plane sat in an mx base every night for the past three months. And not ten years ago.

Talk is cheap. I heard the roadshow shortly after the ownership change was announced, promising pay raises. Here we are, 9 months later, and nothing has changed that makes a bit of difference. Meanwhile, pilots are leaving at what seems an ever increasing rate. And sure, its only 1000 more a year. But it's a $1000 more to fly a Van versus a 99. And the fact that to get to 30K, they got a size-able pay raise. But hey, I know you've got a job to do to spin the company line, so I can respect that.

Agreed... Everything is "coming soon....." There have been some changes for the better, (mileage, medical reimbursement, etc) but nothing major. I definitely have had a good time here at AMF but there's other opportunities to pursue out and around the industry so... Added my two-week notice to the top of that growing stack last week...

You know what? I had forgotten about that part. I was thinking more about times when mx was actively working to keep problems off the books so they wouldn't look bad. But the situation you are talking about has been corrected as well. In fact, I have seen times when we don't have airplanes available because mx wasn't allowed to extend an MEL. So things have gotten much better in that sense.

It's not "my job" to spin the company line. If I wanted to spend the time writing it, I could give you several instances of things Ameriflight has done in general and for me specifically during my time with them that have convinced me that this is one of the best companies to work for. Do I think it is the place for most pilots to come and stay? No. At least not right now. For me it is.

I you read all of my posts you will see that I try to not sugar coat anything. I put out what I believe is the most factual information I can, be it good or bad. And if things are just talk (like the pay raise is so far) I say so. But I also know things that I am not at liberty to talk about which is why I am even willing to pass on some of the "talk."

But because of the way I have been treated and some of the situations this company has helped me through, I get very defensive when people start to bad mouth Ameriflight in any way. If that makes it sound like I am spinning the "company line," then so be it.

I've got 3200 TT
1500 Turbine
over 900 Jet
Type Rated

Should I apply with Ameriflight or keep looking? Any thoughts.

If you want to fly freight for 30k a year. Sure. But if. I had your times, id be taking every avenue possible for a good corporate gig, or major/legacy.

That's kind of what I was thinking. I didn't realize the pay was so low.

Is that what they are paying the direct entry captains?

That's roughly what a PA31/99 driver makes. A 1900/Metro makes more, but the bases they'll offer you as a new hire to typed airplane aren't the best.

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking I am going to hold out for something better.

I had similar times when I hired on but I also hadn't flown regularly for almost 9 years.

Starting pay in a metro or 1900 is closer to $40K first year.

But I agree, if your type is in any corporate jet and you prefer the corporate type of schedule, that may be the better choice for you.

Are well groomed beards allowed at AMF? I'm assuming not but have to ask.

decided to pm instead.

Your assumption is correct. But with the winds of change you never know. I really think a solid goatee would go well with our new polo shirts.

Hey, if you know anyone looking for a job in DFW, Ameriflight just posted several non-flying openings related to our corporate move from BUR to DFW.

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Did you lose some staff in the move?

Some folks just don't want to leave CA for the Republic of Texas. :cool:

Go figure.

Well that's dumb of them. They have no idea what they are missing:D

How much is the insurance for family coverage and dental per month?

The west coast bases are unique in the sense that a lot of people only go to AMF because they want to build time and not move. Doesn't surprise me one bit that people who are planted in CA wouldn't move to Texas.

Depends on which plan you select. I currently pay $201 per pay period(every two weeks) for health and dental covering my wife and I. A coworker who is having a baby soon said he will be paying around $250 for his family.

It's almost like there are 2 separate airlines within 1, in that respect.

I just submitted my app (135 mins) yesterday. I'm a PHX man, I'm wondering what my chances of PHX or SLC would be as a new hire?

I was talking more about support staff. Other than training department, there isn't much in the way of pilot movement because we will still have all the runs out of BUR/ONT that there are now.

Probably a real good chance for PHX, at least if you are willing to start in a PA31. SLC just depends on what there current staffing is.

The last page of the company seniority list shows the last 15 pilots hired, all in the last two months. 2 PHX, 2 SLC. How do you like those odds?

But then again, that's all past history. If you want current openings, call 1-800-800-4JET, and ask for pilot recruiting. I'm sure it would be worth it just to introduce yourself.

How does the training pay work for Amflight

Is CVG a viable base for a new hire? It would be the only base of interest to me at the moment as I'm bound to Columbus for a few years.

CVG is primarily metros. If you have a lot of turbine time it would be possible to go straight to CVG (very short staffed). If you're planning on commuting from Columbus that might be nearly impossible with the CVG schedule. Republic has a Columbus base... QOL would probably be better there

No pay during the first week of indoc, but they pay for your hotel room (double occupancy). Then paid minimum wage (?) until you pass your check-ride. All other upgrades transitions are paid at your normal rate.

Agreed that QOL would be far better with a base closer to Columbus. The fact that requirements include turbine time for the CVG base makes Ameriflight not that attractive to me, as I'm looking for that part 135 job with no prior 121 or 135 experience.

At the risk of being shot at, I'd say PSA probably has a better QoL than AMF does, concessionary contract included.

What regional wouldn't have a better QOL than AMF? Not bashing, and pay aside for the first year.

Simply put, none.

We just had a new guy go out there to fly a metro with little turbine time coming in. Plenty of time in the TT category, but mostly(more than 95%) piston twin and single time.

Anything is possible! Doesn't hurt to apply and communicate your needs.

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Lol! weekends off, home every night and major holidays off wasn't a bad quality of life. Pay for first year chieftain captain aside though...metro was just fine!


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Depends on the base. It goes back to the whole 2 different airlines concept.