Yea I was just thinking about that...Miami was pretty good in my opinion. I know other guys were constantly complaining; mostly CVG. Guess I got lucky!


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True fact. Shoot for the moon, land in the stars concept!

During my time at AMF I did not experience the QOL you mentioned. I too was on the Metro and the pay was still a joke. I worked many weekends regardless of what A/C type I was on.

I also sat around on Xmas eve (on airport reserve) waiting to see if UPS was going to need us for emergency services (recall how UPS's operation was overwhelmed {and made the news} not too long ago).

I worked (not by choice) the 4th of July and New Years Eve recalled by seeing fireworks from the cockpit at night both times.

"Home every night" (UPS schedule) - I feel when a pilot gets home at 730-8pm and misses dinner and then wakes up at 430am M-F, or (international schedule) home at 1030pm wake up at 6am; the home at night isn't much of a selling point.

To folks pondering Ameriflight that want to fly 121 for their career: Continue accumulating flight-time with the intent of getting hired at a regional airline. Why?

-I know regionals have a bad rep but you will be significantly less stressed.
-The 121 equipment you will be flying is significantly more safe.
-135 PIC turbine hours are becoming less important.
-Flying alone (most of a pilot's hrs at AMF) does not develop CRM <--This is a big one and could cause training problems at a 121 carrier.
-AMF is small and political. Which means sometimes unfair.
-The new rest rules that mainly protect against long duty days combined with too many legs do not apply here.
-Once off reserve, you will accumulate more flight time at a regional per month even during a minimum credit month.
-They will not be able to attract future pilots causing a short-staffed situation translating to further reduced QOL for a new pilot at AMF. Noted below.People usually interested in Ameriflight are generally "lower" flight-time pilots. If you find yourself one of these people that also want to have a 121 non-regional career you need to have 4-5000 hrs (generally speaking at the time of interview with big 121 career). With the exodus of regional captains moving to better places that will occur very soon you will likely have the opportunity to upgrade at the regional that you choose. Even if it is 3-4 years that's okay because you need to get your hours higher anyway. It's much easier to build time with a great FO schedule as you become more senior. Then upgrade and take the QOL hit.

I wish this were true. Then at least some of my former flight instructors would be at major airlines, and would be great references. Instead, they're loving it as RJ captains with no plans to move on.

Maybe it depends on the airline, but I just don't see a 3-4 year upgrade happening anytime soon for the better ones like SkyWest and Horizon.

People that brag about how they are home every night at AMF kill me. It's sad to see people with no concept of QOL.

I fly with 2 guys that made CA at regionals in less than 2 years, it will take a while to get there again but it will.

If you went to work at amf id do you a favor and kill you.

C.O...have you worked there?

Jetlife, you may be Right because of your base but having the chance to live in home base and with a schedule like we had at MIA life was better than the crappy 135's and other "airlines" down here.

Life isn't perfect anywhere, even at the majors guys are whining....it's all bout perspective. AMF isn't as bad as a lot of people paint it but then again Im sure other bases were miserable...I had to listen to the stories at KBED of what some guys went through.




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He doesn't have 135 mins yet.

Hey all, I'm heading to the Open House this weekend in Dayton. Any tips for making a good impression, besides the obvious? Apparently Sherri Hudson is no longer the pilot recruiter, she's been replaced by David Hanson who I talked to over the phone last week and seems like a nice guy. As far as attire goes, should I go full tilt with the suit or will a nice dress shirt, tie, and slacks be the way to go? Anyone else heading there?

No doubt! Can't argue with anything you said. I just remember guys that were home from 8pm to 430am 5 days a week trying to talk smack about regional guys and how they weren't home every night.

I worked there years ago now. Seems like a lifetime ago.

I will give you a piece of advice, dress for the job you want, not the job you have (or in your case, the job you're interviewing for). Nobody will talk smack about you wearing a suit, and when you interview at your dream job, that's exactly what you're going to wear, so wear the suit. This goes for when you work there as well. Dress like you want to work at United. Guys at AMF that walk around with dirty uniforms and looking like homeless people always made me confused.

Maybe it is the ex-military in me, but I dry cleaned my uniforms when I was at AMF.

Good luck at the open house!!

Ameriflight
 

LMFAO! And he already knows how AMF is and is willing to put someone out of their misery if they go there. What a great guy [emoji57]

Good lookin' out C.O! [emoji52]


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Yup I hear that! Some routes sucked. MIA was good to me. I for one am happy I went to AMF and made the best of my time. Kinda bummed I can't call myself a freight dawg anymore ...


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Thanks for the advice Jetlife, can't go wrong with that.

Said nobody ever.

If you're a CFI, sitting around 1200 hours, with a job offer from AMF...just build 300 more hours and go to a regional.
I really enjoyed my time at AMF (mainly because of the good people and fun base) but that's all it was, flight time. My final goal is 121/corporate, and I will get there quicker coming from a regional. I left at my first regional offer and have no regrets. AMF management will tell you otherwise..."get 1000 TPIC here...it will make you a better pilot...etc" - but they don't tell you:
1) Majors will hire you with 4000 121 SIC and no PIC...the same can't be said for guys with 1000 135 TPIC and no 121 experience. They are destined to go to the regionals to build that time. So since you will be going to a regional anyways to get the 121 experience, it makes sense to go earlier and get better seniority.
2) Logging lots of single pilot IFR doesn't make you a better aviator, it makes you a better single-pilot IFR operator. Flying a multi-crew jet with lots of glass and automation isn't easier, it's different, and requires a different skill set.

even in a joking manner, on the Internet saying stuff like that can make very real police officers knock on your door.
Welcome to the Internet.

Brother once a freight dog, always a freight dog. :)

That stank don't come off neither :D

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Between your bridge burning and creep-*** skills, you really will need your daddy to hold your hand through your aviation career. If you ever do decide to show up for that interview at Shiny Bottom Feeder Airlines, make sure to bring him along.

Already happening at a few bases. Currently working with lack of reserve pilots, and needing TDY pilots to cover runs...and all I want is couple days off. Also seems like we may be worse off in a few weeks.

I know HWD is like that. No good QOL in sight.

good maybe i can get dfw fo 120 when you guys get desperate

at least ill be at a regoinal instead of a crap 135 outfit thats giong nowhere.by the way come up with your own insults instead of piggy backing off someone else. being unoriginal is just pathetic and makes you look retarted.

Alright moving on.

Remember bros, don't fly sick. It is summer and everybody is feeling good but cold and flu season is right around the corner when the kids go back to school. Don't put getting the job done ahead of your ticket and especially not your life. It isn't your job to figure they've hired enough to have a reserve pilot.

You have a very screwed up thought process. You'll be at a crap regional airline that's going nowhere. Republic is parking all of the EMB-145's and looking to rid themselves of the Q400's. Oh, and not to mention you don't even have the job yet...

P.S. I'm beating my self up for even taking the time to write this. :mad:

i thought i made myself perfectly clear. its my life my choice and my career. going nowhere huh? going to be interesting when 50 seater airlines like xjt fold and those pilots either quit the profession or start over at an airline like republic because they are larger with 175's and will still be there. i dont hve the job yet huh? technically true but i bet i will get a shot with atp mins and a pulse. heck i might even have a good attitude. cooperate and graduate right. you should have never wrote it. you are ignorant to think that i would listen to you.

Dude. Get some facts before you post. You can't get a DFW E120 FO position when there ARE NOT E120s BASED IN TEXAS!!

I tried to help you at one time, but you have totally gone off the deep end.

I still can't figure out why someone would be so stuck on being a Bro Fo when they could be in the 99 solo. A lot of people have tried to help him out but all he does is shoot himself in the foot with negative networking.

Sure, I know guys who made captain at Skywest in 2 years. But it wasn't because captains were moving on in a "mass exodus." But rather because the mainline carriers were parking 727s and outsourcing routes like crazy.

I'm sure there's other regionals that can get you in the captain seat in under 2 years (Gojet, Great Lakes), but not the better ones.

Appreciate the thought and input. From the perspective of that 700-hour CFI looking for his next career move in a few months, this is helpful. Cheers!

No problem! I wish I had known that before I went to AMF. PM me with any questions.

Not trying to be rude but "retarted" is spelled retarded. It might help to spell correctly so you don't look pathetic or retarded Clarence..... :p

Thanks for the advice called in, and a day later had a phone interview. Sounds like a great place to build some experience. I forgot to ask the recruiter about Health benefits though. Whats the current Health benifits for married no children? Cost per paycheck? Coverage?

Thanks again for all the help!

no thanks im good. this isnt an english class.

I'm paying $191 per pay period for just my wife and I. It may vary depending on where you live. The primary company (Blue Cross/Blue Shield) is in CA with subsidiaries in other states. Some are HMO, some PPO, etc.

I don't remember the actual coverage costs though I do know we pay a $20 co-pay for a visit to our primary doctor.

$250 individual deductible I believe.

$191 every 2 weeks? Ouch. That means first year monthly take home is around 1800 mo? Anyone have enough time for supplemental income? ;)

But you're building turbine PIC, so yeah, I mean, that's compensation right? ;)