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flyboy275 05-14-2015 01:40 PM

Oh no kidding? I rub shoulders with a lot of the 1900/metro guys and they don't have TOO many bad things to say about AMF. They fly pretty consistently aswell. I just don't want to do the right seat to PIC program because 1: I'm pulling down around 30k as it is and 2: Once I hit 1500 I'll most likely bounce to the regionals. So I don't want to have to deal with a PIC contract after I hit 135 mins.

And what do you mean about being a**holes when going for the ride?

frmrbuffdrvr 05-28-2015 03:17 PM

Bump. Can't stand to see it on the second page. :D;)

135Pilot 06-01-2015 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond (Post 1863059)
If you are staying at AMF rather than going to a 121 carrier because of this bonus, please do yourself a favor and call some of your 121 friends. Ask them if they would give up 4 months of seniority for $3000. I will guarantee that in this hiring environment, there is no one that would say that they would.

The Kool-Aid is strong at AMF. People there really thing that the turbine time in old turboprops really counts for something in the eyes of the 121 majors. They think that they will get hired at American/Delta/United before the regional captains that have 8 years in 121 with 10,000 hours TT and 5000 hours of PIC Jet time. It just isn't the case.

I learned a lot about flying at AMF, but one of the first things that I learned in the 121 world is that the time at AMF counts for nothing once you leave 135. There are guys with over 10,000 PIC Jet that are just getting called by the majors. Someone with a couple thousand hours in a Metro doesn't stand a chance.

If you are planning on going corporate, AMF is fine. Some places like the single pilot IFR in old turboprops. But the 121's want experience with airplanes that are similar to what they fly - glass with automation, passengers in the back, highly regimented, and in a crew environment.

Ever think that the 10k+ RJ Captains took so long to get on with the majors was because they work for a regional? The regionals have plenty of Kool-Aid to share as well. Ameriflight offers more than what most take the time to see.

Jetlife 06-02-2015 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by 135Pilot (Post 1893603)
Ever think that the 10k+ RJ Captains took so long to get on with the majors was because they work for a regional? The regionals have plenty of Kool-Aid to share as well. Ameriflight offers more than what most take the time to see.

Couldn't be more incorrect. The 10,000+ hour RJ CAs took that long because of Sept 11 and the 2008 recession. The sweet spot for an interview right now across the board is 4,500 hours right now. I would love to hear what Kool-Aid the regionals spew, other than new fleet types. Most have actual flow programs, and because of the number of regional pilots versus freight pilots, it wouldn't shock me if the hiring ratio was 1,000:1. It is a rediclious notion to think that the majors wouldn't hire regional pilots, really think about that for a minute or two ;)

AMF offers some good things, it just depends on where you wanna go after. Because if it's Delta, it ain't happening.

Luv2Rotate 06-03-2015 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by 135Pilot (Post 1893603)
Ever think that the 10k+ RJ Captains took so long to get on with the majors was because they work for a regional?.

You sir, are so incorrect with this statement that it borders catastrophic...

CoolHands 06-03-2015 11:28 AM

Hi guys,

I received an email a couple of days ago from an Ameriflight recruiter talking about upcoming EMB-120 Captain openings and requesting a current resume. I didn't think it was possible to get hired directly into the 120 as a PIC but there is now a post on climbto350.com advertising the very same thing. Does anyone have anymore information regarding these openings? Thanks in advance guys!

Scott

own nav 06-03-2015 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by CoolHands (Post 1894734)
Hi guys,

I received an email a couple of days ago from an Ameriflight recruiter talking about upcoming EMB-120 Captain openings and requesting a current resume. I didn't think it was possible to get hired directly into the 120 as a PIC but there is now a post on climbto350.com advertising the very same thing. Does anyone have anymore information regarding these openings? Thanks in advance guys!

Scott

The email I got said it was a brand new customer, and the new route would operate 365 days a year. They announced they're aquiring two EMB 120s.

Openings go internal first, but I'm sure they're anticipating a shortage of qualified and/or willing pilots to fill some of these openings.

CoolHands 06-03-2015 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 1894750)
The email I got said it was a brand new customer, and the new route would operate 365 days a year. They announced they're aquiring two EMB 120s.

Openings go internal first, but I'm sure they're anticipating a shortage of qualified and/or willing pilots to fill some of these openings.

Thanks for the info!

frmrbuffdrvr 06-03-2015 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 1894750)
The email I got said it was a brand new customer, and the new route would operate 365 days a year. They announced they're aquiring two EMB 120s.

Openings go internal first, but I'm sure they're anticipating a shortage of qualified and/or willing pilots to fill some of these openings.

From what I have heard, 2 more E120s is just the start. One of these runs actually starts next Monday.

own nav 06-04-2015 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 1895071)
From what I have heard, 2 more E120s is just the start. One of these runs actually starts next Monday.

Bids are out for 2 captains in DFW, looks like your neighborhood.

own nav 06-04-2015 12:44 PM

Soooo......., who's the customer?

Jcabesa 06-04-2015 01:01 PM

What are the qualifications of "qualified" internal candidates versus those off the street?

own nav 06-04-2015 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Jcabesa (Post 1895698)
What are the qualifications of "qualified" internal candidates versus those off the street?

Published mins are 3000TT, 750 turbine, 1500 multi either way.

frmrbuffdrvr 06-04-2015 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Jcabesa (Post 1895698)
What are the qualifications of "qualified" internal candidates versus those off the street?


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 1895734)
Published mins are 3000TT, 750 turbine, 1500 multi either way.

Sometimes internals can go lower because the pilot is a known quantity. Just depends on the needs and who bids.

Avcat 06-08-2015 06:18 PM

Anybody know anything as to the status of the PA-31 Upgrade Program at AMF? I'd been looking at trying to get into it once I hit 900 hours, but it looks on the website like there are no openings currently. Is AMF getting enough qualified applicants all of a sudden that they've done away with this program?

frmrbuffdrvr 06-09-2015 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by Avcat (Post 1898878)
Anybody know anything as to the status of the PA-31 Upgrade Program at AMF? I'd been looking at trying to get into it once I hit 900 hours, but it looks on the website like there are no openings currently. Is AMF getting enough qualified applicants all of a sudden that they've done away with this program?

I haven't heard anything about it going away. Put your app in and contact recruiting.

FreightDogs 06-11-2015 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Avcat (Post 1898878)
Anybody know anything as to the status of the PA-31 Upgrade Program at AMF? I'd been looking at trying to get into it once I hit 900 hours, but it looks on the website like there are no openings currently. Is AMF getting enough qualified applicants all of a sudden that they've done away with this program?

@frmrbuffdrvr

We're slowing down the Upgrade program at the moment due to training resource shortage in the PA-31, with priority given to captains getting out on the line.

MikeB525 06-19-2015 10:09 AM

Have looked through previous pages and haven't found anything: is there any sort of training contract for pilots who meet 135? Likely base and equipment for a new hire?

ghatch 06-20-2015 04:16 PM

Is it true the metros have no auto pilot or GPS?

TwinFlyer 06-21-2015 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by ghatch (Post 1910995)
Is it true the metros have no auto pilot or GPS?

I heard auto pilot yes, gps no. I start training for metro next week :D

A8FR8DOG 06-21-2015 01:12 PM

Per 135.something something.....
AMF operates with autopilot in lieu of an SIC (excludes the Bro)
So Autopilots are installed......and gps is hit and miss.

own nav 06-22-2015 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by A8FR8DOG (Post 1911655)
Per 135.something something.....
AMF operates with autopilot in lieu of an SIC (excludes the Bro)
So Autopilots are installed......and gps is hit and miss.

AMF Metros have autopilots, but they are deferrable, no SIC required. A few have Garmin 430s.

frmrbuffdrvr 06-22-2015 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by own nav (Post 1912264)
AMF Metros have autopilots, but they are deferrable, no SIC required. A few have Garmin 430s.

One has a Garmin 155 (was already installed when we got the aircraft) and I believe at least one has a 750 installed already.

WesternSkies 06-22-2015 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by A8FR8DOG (Post 1911655)
Per 135.something something.....
AMF operates with autopilot in lieu of an SIC (excludes the Bro)
So Autopilots are installed......and gps is hit and miss.

Should read the reg again brah

frmrbuffdrvr 06-22-2015 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 1912433)
Should read the reg again brah

Maybe YOU should read the reg again, brah.

§135.101 Second in command required under IFR.

Except as provided in §135.105, no person may operate an aircraft carrying passengers under IFR unless there is a second in command in the aircraft.
[Doc. No. 28743, 62 FR 42374, Aug. 6, 1997]


AMF is cargo only, except for a single BE200 which IS flown two crew.

frmrbuffdrvr 06-30-2015 08:22 AM

Bump back to front page.

beech1980 06-30-2015 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by WesternSkies (Post 1912433)
Should read the reg again brah

Tool of the day Brah...

WesternSkies 06-30-2015 10:25 AM

Wow Ted fail.

Jetlife 07-01-2015 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by frmrbuffdrvr (Post 1918682)
Bump back to front page.

Let it die ;)

sellener 07-12-2015 07:44 PM

Part time
 
Anybody know what AMF has going on outta KLAN?

Reason i ask is:

-Im local CFI MEI with 135 mins and 150 ME

-i have non aviation career (municipality job) which i work at 9 days a month (24hr shifts)

- i would love to get some realworld flying in before i retire at 50 from municipality (currently 33)

-is there anything they might use me for?

Thx

KSCessnaDriver 07-13-2015 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by sellener (Post 1928242)
Anybody know what AMF has going on outta KLAN?

Reason i ask is:

-Im local CFI MEI with 135 mins and 150 ME

-i have non aviation career (municipality job) which i work at 9 days a month (24hr shifts)

- i would love to get some realworld flying in before i retire at 50 from municipality (currently 33)

-is there anything they might use me for?

Thx

A couple metro's and a couple 1900's, IIRC. That's all I knew about it, mostly flying up to the UP.

sellener 07-13-2015 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 1928389)
A couple metro's and a couple 1900's, IIRC. That's all I knew about it, mostly flying up to the UP.

Yup, kinda looks like kiwd as an outstation perhaps.

Anyone ever hear of ameriflight ever using highly motivated part-time help out there at KLAN? Or anywhere.

Going to be 15 min from airport for next 17 years and no intention/desire of airlines. Just want an opportunity to experience 135 freight.

When i hit 50 i plan to fly 135 for retirement job but am anxious to get exposure now😁






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frmrbuffdrvr 07-14-2015 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by sellener (Post 1928478)
Yup, kinda looks like kiwd as an outstation perhaps.

Anyone ever hear of ameriflight ever using highly motivated part-time help out there at KLAN? Or anywhere.

Going to be 15 min from airport for next 17 years and no intention/desire of airlines. Just want an opportunity to experience 135 freight.

When i hit 50 i plan to fly 135 for retirement job but am anxious to get exposure now��






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I don't recall anyone being hired INTO a part time position. The part timers I have known have all been hired full time and then gone to other jobs after their training commitments were up and stayed on as part time.

It is generally too costly to hire and train someone who will only be used to cover open holes in the schedule IF they are available when we need them.

krudawg 07-14-2015 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by sellener (Post 1928242)
Anybody know what AMF has going on outta KLAN?

Reason i ask is:

-Im local CFI MEI with 135 mins and 150 ME

-i have non aviation career (municipality job) which i work at 9 days a month (24hr shifts)

- i would love to get some realworld flying in before i retire at 50 from municipality (currently 33)

-is there anything they might use me for?

Thx

In the past, AMF has not hired part-time pilots. The want full-time one. My suggestion to you is decided what you want. Consider taking a leave of absence from your city job and going to work for AMF. Once you are there, you can try and convince them to allow you to continues as a part-time reserve pilot but chances are, they won't be interested

sellener 07-14-2015 10:48 AM

I thought that would be the case, just wanted to throw the question out there. Ill keep my eyes open.

Thanks

frmrbuffdrvr 07-31-2015 08:23 PM

Anybody home???

CoolHands 08-10-2015 01:22 PM

Hi guys, I just noticed that the Ameriflight payscales were updated on August 6th. Are those numbers accurate? Thanks!

newwings1993 08-10-2015 09:39 PM

I'm also wondering about the updated pay scales. Very curious about any information you can provide.

FreightDogs 08-11-2015 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by CoolHands (Post 1946985)
Hi guys, I just noticed that the Ameriflight payscales were updated on August 6th. Are those numbers accurate? Thanks!


Originally Posted by newwings1993 (Post 1947242)
I'm also wondering about the updated pay scales. Very curious about any information you can provide.

There was an error when APC updated the pay scales - we added the retention bonus pay to the annual compensation numbers, and the bonus was added to the 1900 twice I think. I submitted a change on Sunday. I sincerely apologize for the confusion.

-Recruiting

twebb 08-11-2015 09:39 AM

What's the attrition like over there right now, how many new guys are coming into class each month?

Even with that pay scale error, we pay more for similar equipment, and it's getting hard to find new guys.


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