How about Amerflight?
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Posts: 136
Don't waste your time with AMF I almost made the same mistake. AMF tells newhires about the .05% pilots that make it to xxxx airline without going thru a regional. These pilots are a statistical anomaly who either knew the CEO or got in at a time when things were much less competitive. If you don't have the hours for a regional then AMF is a great time and experience builder. Otherwise apply for the regional you will be better off. Just my 2 cents
Majors and Fractionals don't give a rip about the size of equipment you fly. The biggest concern they have is PIC time. You will not get that at a regional unless you devote years and years of your life to them.
Now...as for AMF...here is the skinny. Health insurance is not great, but better than nothing. Pay, you know. Work 4,5 or 6 days a week, mostly nights (some day runs). Two, 3 and 4 leg days depending on run. Mx is generally good, but the a/c are still really old with lots of cycles so they will have problems. Not mx's fault, just a fact of life when flying old a/c. No gadgets either.
Don't let Burbank strong arm you into an aircraft or city you don't like. I turned down the job 3 times in one hour before they called me back with the right city and aircraft for me. If you meet the 99 minimums, keep declining the job until they offer you the 99, if you want Billings don't say yes until you get Billings. When you accept the offer be sure to ask very politely for an offer letter with the city pairing and equipment stated in the offer. They like to tell you one thing and do another.
Oh, and BTW, to the numbnuts that thinks no one from AMF goes to majors, I personally know of 2 people that went to SWA, 1 to UPS. I left for FlexJet as well as another, 2 left for NJA and all of that is out of the two easterly bases in the last year. Don't be that looser that thinks his RJ experience is king. You are an RJ pilot, as such you still have a lot to do to earn my respect. As far as I'm concerned, that is a detriment to you, not a plus.
#12
Never, ever, ever waste your time at a regional. That was the biggest mistake of my career! You will not make captain in any thing that burns Jet A at a regional in less than 5 years. Ameriflight pilots go from Chiefton to 99 in 6 months and Metro or 1900 in another 6 months.
Not putting down Ameriflight, don't know much about it frankly. Just offering an option.
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: G2 gear slammer
Posts: 308
If i was mangment for any airline, I would pull the AMF pilots resume before anyone else's, and for a very good reason. Everyone knows that AMF pilots hand fly those IFR's every night. They fly the old A/C but they get it done, by hand. Not saying a guy from skywest isnt anymore of a pilot then someone from AMF, but I would have complete confidence when the soup hits the deck, the AMF wouldnt even flinch.
#14
thanks bluebravo
bluebravo,
Nice to hear encouraging words from someone outside of the freight dog community. I just got home into KBUR after fighting 30 knot headwinds just so that I get to hand fly an approach to 500 ft above mins. I've had pilots from Northrop Grumman monitor the tower frequency at destination airports to see is AMF gets in, if we do, then NG attempts the approach. I've had good friends take a year or two at AMF and gain valuable experience and are able to write their own ticket and go any where they want to go in the industry.
Fly safe,
freightdog
You know you're a freight dog if...The other airlines hold to see if you get in.
Nice to hear encouraging words from someone outside of the freight dog community. I just got home into KBUR after fighting 30 knot headwinds just so that I get to hand fly an approach to 500 ft above mins. I've had pilots from Northrop Grumman monitor the tower frequency at destination airports to see is AMF gets in, if we do, then NG attempts the approach. I've had good friends take a year or two at AMF and gain valuable experience and are able to write their own ticket and go any where they want to go in the industry.
Fly safe,
freightdog
You know you're a freight dog if...The other airlines hold to see if you get in.
#15
I was unaware that you could make 60K at a regional, it that the unemployement pay after you have been furloughed a couple of times?
In regards to per diem, that buck and a half an hour sure shrinks up when a burger at the airport is going to cost you seven to eight. Nice thing about cargo is that we dont go to the terminal, have a crew car waiting for us that I get to drive and go where ever I want. Excuse me while I go mix up another batch of kool aid for that guy.
In regards to per diem, that buck and a half an hour sure shrinks up when a burger at the airport is going to cost you seven to eight. Nice thing about cargo is that we dont go to the terminal, have a crew car waiting for us that I get to drive and go where ever I want. Excuse me while I go mix up another batch of kool aid for that guy.
Ziggman my apologies if it appears that I took a dump in your house. I guess I just have an axe to grind with bernstein. (no I didn't fail an interiew or ride if that's what you are thinking.) Best of luck to you all.
#16
Did wildcat call me numbnuts......That's classic that'll teach me. As for the fact that I fly an RJ now..... settle down freight dogs I did the 135 IFR single pilot thing too, And learned a ton from it. But when you transition to glass in a jet you will see what I'm talking about, it's just different not harder or easier just different.
#17
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: FO dhc-6
Posts: 523
Don't let Burbank strong arm you into an aircraft or city you don't like. I turned down the job 3 times in one hour before they called me back with the right city and aircraft for me. If you meet the 99 minimums, keep declining the job until they offer you the 99, if you want Billings don't say yes until you get Billings. When you accept the offer be sure to ask very politely for an offer letter with the city pairing and equipment stated in the offer. They like to tell you one thing and do another.
#18
What's the BIG deal!
This post isn't directed to anyone personally, but.
What's the big deal with EFIS time, or crew time? I have flown both. I've flow all-glass, 5 and 4 tube EFIS, and just the straight 6 pack (steam). I've also flown single and dual crew. Personally, I prefer dual.
I find flying all-glass, dual crew the easiest. Almost all the math is done for you, if you know how to program the system. (just don't let your skills wither away incase the system decides to take a vacation.)
Share your opinion.
What's the big deal with EFIS time, or crew time? I have flown both. I've flow all-glass, 5 and 4 tube EFIS, and just the straight 6 pack (steam). I've also flown single and dual crew. Personally, I prefer dual.
I find flying all-glass, dual crew the easiest. Almost all the math is done for you, if you know how to program the system. (just don't let your skills wither away incase the system decides to take a vacation.)
Share your opinion.
#19
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: FO dhc-6
Posts: 523
nothing about how major airlines hire makes sense, a 1900 pilot can fly circles around most RJ guys anywhere anyday, but for some reason there slowly.....slowly...becoming less valuable in a major airlines opinion
#20
I personally think steam gauges make you a better pilot, but if you can't learn glass it won't help you in the planes that are total glass. At FDX the 727s are all steam gauges, so managment/HR doesn't really care about your glass time unless you're going straight to the MD11 as a nuggett.
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