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Old 03-24-2018, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wmlocante View Post
All I was saying was to forget PIC or dual given.
Clearly, and you've repeated this in error several times.

What you're counseling someone to put in their logbook, an attempted end-run to pad and inflate the logbook, is passenger time.
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Old 03-25-2018, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Then maybe reading the entire thread might help?



From the OP:
Its an SR-20 and I have my high performance so were good haha
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Old 03-26-2018, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
Do you happen to have a link to any info on that case? It came up in a conversation before but I couldn't find the details.
www.ntsb.gov/legal/alj/OnODocuments/Aviation/4008.PDF

Tired Soul's description is generally correct. One thing though, neither of them had the time recorded in their logbooks as dual received, just PIC.
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Old 03-26-2018, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wmlocante View Post
I am speechless! I was not trying to get in any sort of legal/technical argument. I know without a doubt I do not understand or claim to have better knowledge of the regulations than anyone on here. All I was saying was to forget PIC or dual given.
Can you explain how you're going to "log TT" without performing some necessary function in the airplane? You aren't PIC, You aren't giving dual instruction. What exactly is your justification for putting the hours in your logbook? "I was sitting there" is not a valid reason for logging flight time. That's what you can't seem to wrap your mind around, is that telling someone to "Just log the total time" is erroneous advice. You can't "Just log total time."
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Old 03-26-2018, 11:03 AM
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make him wear the hoods, that way you can log PIC time for the time he's under the hood as safety pilot.
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Old 03-26-2018, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by austin27 View Post
Its an SR-20 and I have my high performance so were good haha
I can't believe that nobody has corrected the person suggesting that you need a HP endorsement to log PIC time in an SR22. Cat and Class only guys! Until you are 'acting' as PIC that is.

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Old 03-26-2018, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly507 View Post
make him wear the hoods, that way you can log PIC time for the time he's under the hood as safety pilot.
He’s the owner of the plane and inviting you along...you’re not going to “make” him do anything.
*rolleyes
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:06 PM
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Little Off topic,

Once you put your signature in his logbook as dual given, that opens you up to FAA scrutiny should he pop the chute on that Cirrus or any have an accident with any other plane..

I know thats a bit of a stretch for big brother watching, but all the same, it can happen.

Over a year after leaving instructing, I had a former student run out of gas as his new instructor sat on a picnic table ( most likely padding his $$)

Sure enough I'm in front of the FAA answering questions.....


Trust me, in a few years or less, you are not gonna care about a few hrs bombing around in a single piston.
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by kingairfun View Post
Little Off topic,

Once you put your signature in his logbook as dual given, that opens you up to FAA scrutiny should he pop the chute on that Cirrus or any have an accident with any other plane..

I know thats a bit of a stretch for big brother watching, but all the same, it can happen.

Over a year after leaving instructing, I had a former student run out of gas as his new instructor sat on a picnic table ( most likely padding his $$)

Sure enough I'm in front of the FAA answering questions.....


Trust me, in a few years or less, you are not gonna care about a few hrs bombing around in a single piston.
This is a great perspective!
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:41 AM
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And THAT ^^^ is why you need to log it properly in YOUR logbook also.
The “record keeping” as required by the FAR’s.
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