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Old 02-03-2012, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyhayes View Post
There is a glider operation over at Homestead General. I have no clue what they require to be a tow plane pilot, but it couldn't hurt to take a trip down there to ask around.
And get the glider rating while you're at it. Another line on the resume, and the time counts toward ATP.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:22 PM
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My story on how I got into aviation is a long one. But like I said prior, sometimes its about who you know in aviation. But that doesn't matter. Fact is I got my PC-12 training paid for because there are some really big people that think I could accomplish the job a week after getting my instrument rating. Things fell through and I still got my cert so I'm happy =)


"There are market rates for specific pilot services, but there will always be the pilot that under values himself causing the market rate to drop."

"I have a difficult time justifying the investment of comerical-multi, then selling myself for 16K-23K per year. It is even worse when the job requires at least 1000 hours and starting pay is still only 20K. Starting pay at Silver airways is the same as someone working 40 hours a week earning $9/hour."

HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD . And the point I've been trying to make!
Still not understanding how you were planning on doing commercial flying without a commercial license
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AcesHigh View Post
I know I'm barely insurable, your not telling me something I don't know.I didn't say I'm not going to do my CFI. $1500 is silver pay. I absolutely hate the should've picked another career for wages comment.
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I am just wondering in my AREA other options of what people that don't instruct do.IE Jump Pilot,Crop Dusting etc etc.People talk about minumums and all that..As we've all heard in the aviation, it's all about WHO you know.

Silver was going to hire me with 241TT.They called me when I had 232.Hence me making a post on options and leads.
The fact is, while "technically" you are insurable, you would be so risky and expensive to insure that no one will pay for it.

Minimums for piston jump pilots are typically 500, aerial application minimums around 1200-1500.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:06 PM
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Still not understanding how you were planning on doing commercial flying without a commercial license
Did you read my post? I already noted that I just passed my Commercial Single Engine addon..I already had my Comm Mel...
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:33 PM
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Did you read my post? I already noted that I just passed my Commercial Single Engine addon..I already had my Comm Mel...
Read them very clearly. So that's why I ask how a commercial operation put you in PC-12 training with no commercial license. Are you trying to say you had your cmel at 160tt?

Something doesn't add up, that's why I posed the question.
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Old 02-05-2012, 07:39 AM
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Read them very clearly. So that's why I ask how a commercial operation put you in PC-12 training with no commercial license. Are you trying to say you had your cmel at 160tt?

Something doesn't add up, that's why I posed the question.
Very simple. He had his multi commercial and added on the single commercial. It is quite possible to have 160TT if you are in a 141 program. When I taught at Riddle we had plenty of students with less than 200 hours. So I'm guessing this is the case seeing he did his multi commercial first. So yes it adds up. He will have a very difficult time finding a job with those times but that's why he asked the question.

Onto the origianl question. I would suggest leaving Florida. There are way to many pilots with your times and qualifications and the number keeps growing every day. I would highly recommend Texas or maybe Arizona. Most of Texas has not taken the hit with the economy and you can still find alot of low time positions. Lots of pipe line flying, numerous flight schools, jump zones and just about every other type of low time flying. Plus, the weather is pretty good all year so the jobs aren't just seasonal. When I was furloughed I accepted a charter job just south of Dallas and within a year I met enough people to get an interview at just about any flight department in the area if I needed it. There are also about 5 or 6 sim facilities here. Most have seat support programs where you can get type rated in something if you spend a year with them.

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Old 02-05-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin View Post
The PFT is gone now. So no they aren't.
it's easy to look down on PFT when you've already managed to get past the barriers.
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Originally Posted by SheriffWydell View Post
it's easy to look down on PFT when you've already managed to get past the barriers.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin View Post
Very simple. He had his multi commercial and added on the single commercial. It is quite possible to have 160TT if you are in a 141 program. When I taught at Riddle we had plenty of students with less than 200 hours. So I'm guessing this is the case seeing he did his multi commercial first. So yes it adds up. He will have a very difficult time finding a job with those times but that's why he asked the question.

Onto the origianl question. I would suggest leaving Florida. There are way to many pilots with your times and qualifications and the number keeps growing every day. I would highly recommend Texas or maybe Arizona. Most of Texas has not taken the hit with the economy and you can still find alot of low time positions. Lots of pipe line flying, numerous flight schools, jump zones and just about every other type of low time flying. Plus, the weather is pretty good all year so the jobs aren't just seasonal. When I was furloughed I accepted a charter job just south of Dallas and within a year I met enough people to get an interview at just about any flight department in the area if I needed it. There are also about 5 or 6 sim facilities here. Most have seat support programs where you can get type rated in something if you spend a year with them.

Note quite, but almost. I'm just not really putting the whole of my business out there.I got my comm with 232...I started with 0 and no real prior experience. I had a passion to fly well I got an opportunity of a life time to do some big things to sum it up.

I got my certification for the PC12 at 160 because eventually I would've gotten my commercial se-add. So based on what you know, I guess you can say I know some people, who know some people. But not everything in life goes according to plan. I'm blessed and thankful for it.

But thanks for everybodys feedback that gave it.Word, I hope your able to sleep well at night now :P
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin View Post
Very simple. He had his multi commercial and added on the single commercial. It is quite possible to have 160TT if you are in a 141 program. When I taught at Riddle we had plenty of students with less than 200 hours. So I'm guessing this is the case seeing he did his multi commercial first. So yes it adds up. He will have a very difficult time finding a job with those times but that's why he asked the question.

Onto the origianl question. I would suggest leaving Florida. There are way to many pilots with your times and qualifications and the number keeps growing every day. I would highly recommend Texas or maybe Arizona. Most of Texas has not taken the hit with the economy and you can still find alot of low time positions. Lots of pipe line flying, numerous flight schools, jump zones and just about every other type of low time flying. Plus, the weather is pretty good all year so the jobs aren't just seasonal. When I was furloughed I accepted a charter job just south of Dallas and within a year I met enough people to get an interview at just about any flight department in the area if I needed it. There are also about 5 or 6 sim facilities here. Most have seat support programs where you can get type rated in something if you spend a year with them.
Yes, I have a pretty good understanding of part 141, commercial at 160 is not possible.
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