Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
09-25-2018, 09:02 AM
#2801
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 52
Originally Posted by aviatore
Interviewed 2 weeks ago, number they’re using is 5-6 years. Most likely a generous prediction.
09-25-2018, 09:53 AM
#2802
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 18
Originally Posted by surfcc11
Did they show you the math? I seriously don't see how they could give younthat time frame with a straight face.
09-25-2018, 01:10 PM
#2805
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 75
A friend of mine is a PDT Fall of 2013 hire and is flowing in January- slightly over a 5 year flow, which was innocently great timing on his part...
Although there supposedly may appear to be a current lull in the flow right now, I find it hard to believe with "only" 500ish mandatory retirements at AA this year growing to >800/yr by 2021 and >900/yr by 2023 (and >900 for a few years annually thereafter), that the flow at PDT will be greater than 6 years at any time for the next 5-8 years. Flow rate will increase before pay rate increases at PDT. Even while increasing both OTS hiring and flow from the WO's, AA will be working really, really hard to staff mainline in just a few years.
I'm a numbers guy, and this is what the data is telling me...
Although there supposedly may appear to be a current lull in the flow right now, I find it hard to believe with "only" 500ish mandatory retirements at AA this year growing to >800/yr by 2021 and >900/yr by 2023 (and >900 for a few years annually thereafter), that the flow at PDT will be greater than 6 years at any time for the next 5-8 years. Flow rate will increase before pay rate increases at PDT. Even while increasing both OTS hiring and flow from the WO's, AA will be working really, really hard to staff mainline in just a few years.
I'm a numbers guy, and this is what the data is telling me...
09-25-2018, 01:59 PM
#2806
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 162
Originally Posted by Pilsung
I'm a numbers guy, and this is what the data is telling me...
I can appreciate a good data analysis, but don't ignore the fact that there is a massive stack of resumes from people that would love to work at American and aren't working for a wholly owned. Corporate, military, and regional pilots. All they have to do is call them. If they start to run low, they can drop the degree requirement.
09-25-2018, 02:26 PM
#2807
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 75
Originally Posted by 67Creek
I can appreciate a good data analysis, but don't ignore the fact that there is a massive stack of resumes from people that would love to work at American and aren't working for a wholly owned. Corporate, military, and regional pilots. All they have to do is call them. If they start to run low, they can drop the degree requirement.
09-25-2018, 02:39 PM
#2808
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 52
Originally Posted by Pilsung
I couldn't agree with you more. OTS hiring will skyrocket, but flow will remain steady around 6 years.
09-25-2018, 03:28 PM
#2809
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 75
Originally Posted by surfcc11
Exactly! Why would AA kill their own cheap labor when there are other qualified canadates applying? Let's face it if the flow goes under five years it probably costs AA more money than they saved with our lower hourly rates. The cost of the RTP program, the ATP course, the sign on bonuses, and the cost of training. What's the cost of a new hire when they don't even start flying for nine months here? I would imagine AA would want at least a min of 5 years to make the math work.
09-25-2018, 06:12 PM
#2810
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 616
Originally Posted by Pilsung
Again, I agree with you. I never suggested it would drop below 5 years, but rather am suggesting that 6ish years makes sense rather than the 7-9 years being thrown around this thread...
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