Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
09-26-2018, 09:12 AM
#2821
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
With the garbage TA the union leadership accepted and sent to the pilot group for a vote there’s a possibility PDT will end up shrinking (recently a goal of 20 NH pilots brought a net gain of 6 to the pilot group as attrition picked up after the TA came out)
This is something that any applicant considering Piedmont should take note of. That's a very concerning statistic for someone about to be at the bottom of the seniority list.
Not only can you get better pay, better QoL, and fly better equipment at other regionals, other regionals are growing and plan to continue. That's free seniority. With how far Piedmont has fallen behind the pack now, there might not be a lot of people behind you to push you up in relative seniority. And Piedmont reaffirmed today that they don't have an intention of growing. They're going to start hiring just to replace attrition.
Remember kids, when more people leave from the bottom of the list than leave from the top of it, seniority goes backwards.
And further, if we can't grow and hit the next threshold, our flow rate won't increase.
Last edited by 67Creek; 09-26-2018 at 09:22 AM.
09-26-2018, 09:16 AM
#2822
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
A TA bringing Endeavor pay/QOL items would have positioned PDT for a large amount of growth supporting managements goal of 100+ aircraft and 1500 pilots.
With the garbage TA the union leadership accepted and sent to the pilot group for a vote there’s a possibility PDT will end up shrinking (recently a goal of 20 NH pilots brought a net gain of 6 to the pilot group as attrition picked up after the TA came out) long term as ACMIs and LCC pay increases pull Captains away from the flow in addition to OTS legacy hiring and FOs who could stay to upgrade to CA go to other better paying regionals to sit in the left seat or to well paying airlines as FOs.
The lost decade concept that regionals only have to stay competitive with other regionals to keep talent because no higher tier airlines were hiring has been overtaken by events. Regionals now compete with ACMIs (Omni and Kalitta etc. paying $107-110/hr first year), LCCs (Spirit, JetBlue Allegant etc. paying $96- 117/hr second year) to retain Captain qualified talent... $65/hr @ year three on the Captain side of the aircraft isn’t going to cut it anymore. Anyone leaving will make more in their second year than they would staying to be a 12 year captain @$93/hr... their QOL will be better than 4-6 on 2 off and 11 days off a months also.
With the garbage TA the union leadership accepted and sent to the pilot group for a vote there’s a possibility PDT will end up shrinking (recently a goal of 20 NH pilots brought a net gain of 6 to the pilot group as attrition picked up after the TA came out) long term as ACMIs and LCC pay increases pull Captains away from the flow in addition to OTS legacy hiring and FOs who could stay to upgrade to CA go to other better paying regionals to sit in the left seat or to well paying airlines as FOs.
The lost decade concept that regionals only have to stay competitive with other regionals to keep talent because no higher tier airlines were hiring has been overtaken by events. Regionals now compete with ACMIs (Omni and Kalitta etc. paying $107-110/hr first year), LCCs (Spirit, JetBlue Allegant etc. paying $96- 117/hr second year) to retain Captain qualified talent... $65/hr @ year three on the Captain side of the aircraft isn’t going to cut it anymore. Anyone leaving will make more in their second year than they would staying to be a 12 year captain @$93/hr... their QOL will be better than 4-6 on 2 off and 11 days off a months also.
09-26-2018, 12:58 PM
#2824
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Originally Posted by 123494
What’s this newsletter that we will over have a few hundred pilots in PHL?
150 CLT
Guess is either a DCA base is coming with the 200-250 pilots left over or the Union is giving the company PBS and that 250 will be taken care of through pilot attrition and reduced hiring.
09-26-2018, 01:31 PM
#2825
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
350 PHL
150 CLT
Guess is either a DCA base is coming with the 200-250 pilots left over or the Union is giving the company PBS and that 250 will be taken care of through pilot attrition and reduced hiring.
150 CLT
Guess is either a DCA base is coming with the 200-250 pilots left over or the Union is giving the company PBS and that 250 will be taken care of through pilot attrition and reduced hiring.
09-26-2018, 06:43 PM
#2828
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Originally Posted by flysooner9
DCA base makes sense with the Waterski contract ending with AAG
There’s a lot more ramp space about to open up at LGA with some new gates in Oct.
09-26-2018, 08:22 PM
#2829
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Originally Posted by havick206
The 15 TSA aircraft have already been announced they’re coming to envoy. No new base announcement, probably just fly through.
There’s a lot more ramp space about to open up at LGA with some new gates in Oct.
There’s a lot more ramp space about to open up at LGA with some new gates in Oct.
09-27-2018, 03:27 AM
#2830
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Originally Posted by flysooner9
Just cause y’all are technically getting the TSA airplanes doesn’t mean they won’t transfer 15 other ERJ’s to us for DCA.
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