MantisToboggan

Thought the same thing myself. It's not going to change until another big institutional change is forced upon PDT by AA. Like a total management revamp. Which, for the record, I don't think is forthcoming.

Maybe Brucey's last gift before retirement will be some more interface magic

Phoenix21

Better off getting a flow increase.

MantisToboggan

I was being facetious, but if that were to happen it would not come from PDT management. It's also a tough sell as PDT is understaffed, and is currently flowing pilots who have been with the company for a couple years less than its sister companies.

Phoenix21

It’s not as tough of a sell as one would think looking at the big picture. Look at the number of folks that Piedmont loses every year. Each one of those pilots should be feeding to AA, and isn’t. They’ve loosing between 10-17 pilots a month for the past year+ (numbers put out by management), 6 of which are flows. That’s A LOT of pilots not going to AA when AA needs them to be long term. AAs hiring construct revolves around the WO being able to feed the AA pipeline. As mainlines hiring needs increase, the WOs need to be able to increase flow.

Look where Piedmont is hemorrhaging the most. Pilots under 3 years on property, who were told a 5 year flow during their recruitment only to find out that it’s actually a 7-9 year flow for them once they get access to the seniority list and are able to do the math. Hiring needs at mainline start being greater than 1000 people in 2020.

PSA and Envoy both got flow increases in the last two years.

MD-11Loader

Envoy’s flow increases were to groups who are outside of the ratio based flow which will now take effect in August 2020. We are going from 29 per month, down to 20 when the Protected Pilots are gone, and then the ratio should be around 22 a month after the L10-11 group finishes in August.

CaseTractor

For my learning: I thought it was capped at 15 for the L10-11, waived higher by the company. Are we expecting 20 a month?

Just going of the interactive seniority list, showing 15/mo in the calculation.

Also to make the point; it's still slow, or slower, depending how you look at it.

Varsity

AA doesn’t NEED Their WO RJ pilots. They could hire them off the street like everybody else, no problem.

dera

It changed to 20 a month with the pay increase LOA.

MD-11Loader

The interactive list came out the day before the LOA’s were signed. I’m sure the next one will be updated.

CaseTractor

Thanks guys, I should have caught that part...