Flaps 45 vs. 22
08-14-2017, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PDTFlyer
So when you are in turbulence I take it you don't bother with trying to find a smoother altitude for customer comfort. Smooth landings and not going off the end of the runway are all part of being safe, and giving the customers the best flying experience possible. I could give a **** about your riddle contests. I do care that landing flaps 22 all the time because it's perceived to be better extends the landing roll out and come winter time can be a real problem when the runway is icy.
08-14-2017, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MantisToboggan
I went through the 145 program pretty early, and we were basically always doing flaps 22. In the sim and during SOE. Sometime in the past 6 months, the training department decided flaps 45 should be the norm.
If you went through early, you probably prefer flaps 22. If you've been through recently, you probably prefer flaps 45. We like what we're used to. It's that simple.
As people start going through recurrent, flaps 45 will become the norm throughout the airline
If you went through early, you probably prefer flaps 22. If you've been through recently, you probably prefer flaps 45. We like what we're used to. It's that simple.
As people start going through recurrent, flaps 45 will become the norm throughout the airline
runways under 7000 feet. One exception: I don't like it on 35 in PHL unless i have a tailwind.
08-14-2017, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
I think this is the most accurate statement. I never did a flaps 45 landing in training at all (or a flaps 22 takeoff) I did one flaps 45 landing on SOE. I'm not a huge fan to be honest, but I've warmed up to 45 a little. I usually use it for significant contamination and and some
runways under 7000 feet. One exception: I don't like it on 35 in PHL unless i have a tailwind.
runways under 7000 feet. One exception: I don't like it on 35 in PHL unless i have a tailwind.
08-15-2017, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
ExpressJet pilots have some of the most experience flying the 145, and flaps 45 is the norm. They also went through a period of flaps 22 (to save a TINY amount of fuel) yet they went back to flaps 45.
I was there during that period. Flaps 22 was chewing up brakes at an astonishing rate. So they quickly told everyone to go to Flaps 45 right away. Fun experiment.
08-15-2017, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
I think this is the most accurate statement. I never did a flaps 45 landing in training at all (or a flaps 22 takeoff) I did one flaps 45 landing on SOE. I'm not a huge fan to be honest, but I've warmed up to 45 a little. I usually use it for significant contamination and and some
runways under 7000 feet. One exception: I don't like it on 35 in PHL unless i have a tailwind.
runways under 7000 feet. One exception: I don't like it on 35 in PHL unless i have a tailwind.
08-15-2017, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FM2436
ERJ145 service begin at SBY August 22nd. 6,400' RWY 14-32.
08-15-2017, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I also liked using 45. With a little practice, you can land just as smooth on 45 as you can on 22. I know at some of the cities TSA goes, (GUC, DIK, etc), there was very little that would encourage me to use flaps 22.
08-15-2017, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyjustin
Exactly. I use FL45 until wind gusts over 20 knots. Then I usually use 22. Always FL45 on 35/17.
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