Don't Buy into the Piedmont Propaganda
#13
wow, I thought the forums would be blowing up more about this. Probably the kiss of death for Eagle
Piedmont Airlines pilots approve new contract | Dallas Morning News
Pilots at Piedmont Airlines, a regional carrier owned by American Airlines Group, have approved a tentative agreement, American said Tuesday.
American did not give a vote total.
“American is pleased pilots at Piedmont Airlines have voted to ratify a tentative agreement that was reached with the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) on August 22,” American spokeswoman Martha Thomas said in a statement. “We look forward to working with Piedmont to add jet aircraft to their current fleet of turbo props to connect our customers in regional markets to American’s growing global network.”
With Tuesday’s decision, pilot unions at two of the three regional carriers under the AAG umbrella have approved revised contracts: Piedmont and PSA Airlines, both US Airways Express airlines.
Pilots at Envoy Air, renamed from American Eagle Airlines in April, have rejected attempts to modify their current contract, a concessionary deal obtained under pressure from American management during American’s bankruptcy proceedings.
American and US Airways merged on Dec. 9.
Here’s a letter from Piedmont president and CEO Steve Farrow to Piedmont employees.
September 16, 2014
Fellow Employees:
I am very pleased to report our pilots have ratified the tentative agreement we reached with the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) with a decisive 77 percent of the vote. As you know, this agreement, which will now become part of our Collective Bargaining Agreement with ALPA, significantly broadens our options for re-fleeting Piedmont Airlines and positions our company for future success in a highly competitive industry.
We would like to thank each pilot who took the time to read the document and carefully consider how this agreement would affect not only his or her own career, but the careers of fellow Piedmont pilots and co-workers. I don’t recall another vote that received so much attention outside of the pilot group. Thank you for voting your conscience with the eyes of your colleagues upon you.
With this foundation, we are beginning the process of preparing Piedmont for re-fleeting with regional jets. We have already started working with a consultant to add RJs to our certificate. I will share more information on the process in the weeks and months to come.
For those of you concerned with Dash 8 flying, rest assured that our turboprops aren’t going away any time soon. The Dash is an important part of the American Airlines’ route structure, and we expect to continue to fly both the -100s and -300s for the foreseeable future. Two of our Dash 8s have been painted in American Eagle livery; 23 more are scheduled to be painted over the next several months.
Please join me in congratulating our pilots, ALPA, Matt Berson and the ALPA negotiating committee, Captain Bruce Freedman and the Master Executive Council on a challenging job well done.
Steve Farrow
CEO/President
Piedmont Airlines
Piedmont Airlines pilots approve new contract | Dallas Morning News
Pilots at Piedmont Airlines, a regional carrier owned by American Airlines Group, have approved a tentative agreement, American said Tuesday.
American did not give a vote total.
“American is pleased pilots at Piedmont Airlines have voted to ratify a tentative agreement that was reached with the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) on August 22,” American spokeswoman Martha Thomas said in a statement. “We look forward to working with Piedmont to add jet aircraft to their current fleet of turbo props to connect our customers in regional markets to American’s growing global network.”
With Tuesday’s decision, pilot unions at two of the three regional carriers under the AAG umbrella have approved revised contracts: Piedmont and PSA Airlines, both US Airways Express airlines.
Pilots at Envoy Air, renamed from American Eagle Airlines in April, have rejected attempts to modify their current contract, a concessionary deal obtained under pressure from American management during American’s bankruptcy proceedings.
American and US Airways merged on Dec. 9.
Here’s a letter from Piedmont president and CEO Steve Farrow to Piedmont employees.
September 16, 2014
Fellow Employees:
I am very pleased to report our pilots have ratified the tentative agreement we reached with the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) with a decisive 77 percent of the vote. As you know, this agreement, which will now become part of our Collective Bargaining Agreement with ALPA, significantly broadens our options for re-fleeting Piedmont Airlines and positions our company for future success in a highly competitive industry.
We would like to thank each pilot who took the time to read the document and carefully consider how this agreement would affect not only his or her own career, but the careers of fellow Piedmont pilots and co-workers. I don’t recall another vote that received so much attention outside of the pilot group. Thank you for voting your conscience with the eyes of your colleagues upon you.
With this foundation, we are beginning the process of preparing Piedmont for re-fleeting with regional jets. We have already started working with a consultant to add RJs to our certificate. I will share more information on the process in the weeks and months to come.
For those of you concerned with Dash 8 flying, rest assured that our turboprops aren’t going away any time soon. The Dash is an important part of the American Airlines’ route structure, and we expect to continue to fly both the -100s and -300s for the foreseeable future. Two of our Dash 8s have been painted in American Eagle livery; 23 more are scheduled to be painted over the next several months.
Please join me in congratulating our pilots, ALPA, Matt Berson and the ALPA negotiating committee, Captain Bruce Freedman and the Master Executive Council on a challenging job well done.
Steve Farrow
CEO/President
Piedmont Airlines
#14
Nobody is really surprised, they seemed like kind of a weak group that would fold under a couple of fear grenades.
Besides, what did you expect after the PDT MEC Chair Bruce Freedman refused to sign the FFD no whipsaw agreement. That alone should have told everybody what kind of group they are.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/at...s-psa-ffd.jpeg
Besides, what did you expect after the PDT MEC Chair Bruce Freedman refused to sign the FFD no whipsaw agreement. That alone should have told everybody what kind of group they are.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/at...s-psa-ffd.jpeg
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Nobody is really surprised, they seemed like kind of a weak group that would fold under a couple of fear grenades.
Besides, what did you expect after the PDT MEC Chair Bruce Freedman refused to sign the FFD no whipsaw agreement. That alone should have told everybody what kind of group they are.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/at...s-psa-ffd.jpeg
Besides, what did you expect after the PDT MEC Chair Bruce Freedman refused to sign the FFD no whipsaw agreement. That alone should have told everybody what kind of group they are.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/at...s-psa-ffd.jpeg
#16
#17
Don't Buy into the Piedmont Propaganda
After reading the rates, it looks like the new 175 rates (appendix A) for PDT are exactly $1.05more per hour starting than Republics 2007 rates. And by the way how is a 76 seat jet rate that starts out less than the dash 8 (appendixB) rate mean this is a great deal?
Republics 2007 rates:
Year Oct 1 2003 Oct 1, 2004 Oct 1, 2005 Oct 1, 2006 Oct 1, 2007
1 $ 21.00 $ 21.52 $ 22.06 $ 22.50 $ 22.95
2 $ 28.25 $ 28.96 $ 29.68 $ 30.27 $ 30.88
3 $ 32.50 $ 33.31 $ 34.15 $ 34.83 $ 35.52
4 $ 33.50 $ 34.34 $ 35.20 $ 35.90 $ 36.62
Republics failed TA rates:
Longevity DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3 DOS+4*
1 $26.00 $26.26 $26.52 $26.79 $27.19
2 $36.00 $36.36 $36.72 $37.09 $37.65
3 $39.34 $39.74 $40.13 $40.54 $41.14
4 $40.56 $40.97 $41.38 $41.79 $42.42
5 $41.82 $42.24 $42.66 $43.09 $43.74
6 $43.12 $43.55 $43.99 $44.43 $45.09
7 $44.46 $44.90 $45.35 $45.80 $46.49
8 $45.84 $46.29 $46.76 $47.23 $47.93
9 $47.26 $47.73 $48.21 $48.69 $49.42
PIEDMONTS WONDERFUL NEW CAPPED RATES FOR THE 175
1
$24.00. 2014
$24.24
$24.66
$25.02
$25.27
$25.53
$25.78
$26.04
$26.30
$26.56. 2023
2
$34.81. 2014
$35.16
$35.77
$36.30
$36.66
$37.02
$37.39
$37.77
$38.15
$38.53. 2023
3
$37.76. 2014
$38.14
$38.80
$39.37
$39.76
$40.16
$40.56
$40.97
$41.38
$41.79. 2023
4
$39.10. 2014
$39.49
$40.17
$40.77
$41.18
$41.59
$42.00
$42.42
$42.85
$43.28
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Republics 2007 rates:
Year Oct 1 2003 Oct 1, 2004 Oct 1, 2005 Oct 1, 2006 Oct 1, 2007
1 $ 21.00 $ 21.52 $ 22.06 $ 22.50 $ 22.95
2 $ 28.25 $ 28.96 $ 29.68 $ 30.27 $ 30.88
3 $ 32.50 $ 33.31 $ 34.15 $ 34.83 $ 35.52
4 $ 33.50 $ 34.34 $ 35.20 $ 35.90 $ 36.62
Republics failed TA rates:
Longevity DOS DOS+1 DOS+2 DOS+3 DOS+4*
1 $26.00 $26.26 $26.52 $26.79 $27.19
2 $36.00 $36.36 $36.72 $37.09 $37.65
3 $39.34 $39.74 $40.13 $40.54 $41.14
4 $40.56 $40.97 $41.38 $41.79 $42.42
5 $41.82 $42.24 $42.66 $43.09 $43.74
6 $43.12 $43.55 $43.99 $44.43 $45.09
7 $44.46 $44.90 $45.35 $45.80 $46.49
8 $45.84 $46.29 $46.76 $47.23 $47.93
9 $47.26 $47.73 $48.21 $48.69 $49.42
PIEDMONTS WONDERFUL NEW CAPPED RATES FOR THE 175
1
$24.00. 2014
$24.24
$24.66
$25.02
$25.27
$25.53
$25.78
$26.04
$26.30
$26.56. 2023
2
$34.81. 2014
$35.16
$35.77
$36.30
$36.66
$37.02
$37.39
$37.77
$38.15
$38.53. 2023
3
$37.76. 2014
$38.14
$38.80
$39.37
$39.76
$40.16
$40.56
$40.97
$41.38
$41.79. 2023
4
$39.10. 2014
$39.49
$40.17
$40.77
$41.18
$41.59
$42.00
$42.42
$42.85
$43.28
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Last edited by SenecaII; 09-16-2014 at 02:48 PM.
#18
Don't Buy into the Piedmont Propaganda
Summary for you prospective PDT FOs. Piedmonts new jet rate is 1.05 more per hour than RPAs 2007 50 seat jet rate. It also caps out in 2023 at $6 less per hour than RPAs rejected Rates. PDT lowered the bar today. The new management shell game is all about FLOW and Quick upgrade.
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#20
No shame here. Life is good. My parents hugged me today. My dad (MBA, union leader, manager, 35 years of experience) said "nothing's ever perfect, but we should be proud to protect our careers, co-workers, and airline. My wife is content, and my airline friends are in support (Eagle, RAH, XJT, and PSA among them). No, I'm not kidding. I appreciate what I have, not what others think I should have. To each their own...
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