BSOuthisplace

You should repost this here once a day. That's pretty much the content of this thread anyway.

billyho

Anyone remember Pay for Training? Yep many airlines did it. Comair, Conex, ACA, Commutair, ASA.... Then all the pilots started to go to the airlines that didn't have pay for training.

Same here... If a deal is really bad then pilots will go to Compass, Skywest, Mesa, Republic.

And then pay will go up just like how the airlines started to end the Pay for Training Era.

Market will make the change because ALPA sure the hell isn't going to.

flyviper

Seems like a very simple logic, but people hear what they want to hear. You talking to the wrong crowd.

lowtimepilot

Can anyone point me in the right direction to see what all happened/Will happen with the new contract. Have been having a tough time finding what things will look like in the future. Thanks

billyho

Basically Piedmont signed a TA to survive. Look for a announcement Thursday by AAG of EMB-145's starting in June with 175's to follow March 2016. Then after Envoy's BK Contract expires look for a merger between PDT and Envoy.

That's about it.

ChickHicks

Big announcement Thursday? Source?

Poopchute701

Is there one?

ChickHicks

I doubt it.

buddies8

You can have the E140's good luck with the E175's. Personally I don't see both together in PDT future. Also envoy contract does not expire it is up for renegotiations in 6 years, an amendment round in two years.

billyho

Fellow Envoy Pilots:
Recently, ALPA pilots at Piedmont Airlines ratified a new agreement with 77 percent of the pilots voting in favor. Their new agreement is similar to the deal ratified by the PSA pilots last year and includes the cost structure the company demanded from us in return for aircraft and flow through to AA.
A video was released by ALPA National last week that drives home the message that the industry has a “pay shortage, not a pilot shortage”. You can view it here, and I encourage us all to watch it. The MEC believes it does not make sense to advocate and support an agreement that validates poor compensation by locking in an agreement for 10 years with no method of improving it.
What does this mean for us? AAG has indicated that PDT’s new agreement provides another avenue to operate the EMB 175s within the wholly owned family at a lower compensation model. We fully expect an announcement that AAG will commit those 175’s to Piedmont. Coupled with the announced movement of our CRJs to PSA, it’s easy to form a clear picture of AAG’s plans for our carrier. We haven’t been notified of displacements or downgrades as of yet, but we will advise you when we have.
This is a very stressful time for our group. Please maintain the level of professionalism we are known for as we transition to this new reality.
Fly Safe.
Bill Sprague
MEC Chairman