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Old 09-17-2014, 10:00 PM
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Doesn't awac fo's make nearly $40 on 2nd year pay on the 50 seater? You guys voted in $34 to fly 50% more airplane? That's horrid.
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Old 09-17-2014, 11:36 PM
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Wow!. Comair rates were higher than those for a 50 seater nearly 14 years ago......

Been out of the regionals for over 8 years now..... You all are really reaping some serious contract improvements....
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Wow!. Comair rates were higher than those for a 50 seater nearly 14 years ago......

Been out of the regionals for over 8 years now..... You all are really reaping some serious contract improvements....






Dougie and Richard are finding lots of willing lemmings in there race to undermine the profession!
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Wow!. Comair rates were higher than those for a 50 seater nearly 14 years ago......

Been out of the regionals for over 8 years now..... You all are really reaping some serious contract improvements....
And where is Comair now?....Exactly...priced out of the market...
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And where is Comair now?....Exactly...priced out of the market...









Let's move to the present day where we finally had 4 pilot groups that decided the constant downward spiral had to stop. Those 4 voted NO to any more concessions, but have been sold out/undermined by 2 self-centered pilot groups at PSA and PDT...
Finally, after years of downward pressure our profession had support from the new 117 regs, the new 121 ATP requirement, and age 65. If all refused concessions, then it would make it difficult for management to "price" anyone else "out of the market".

Thanks for helping management continue the degradation!
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd View Post
And where is Comair now?....Exactly...priced out of the market...
Is it safe to assume that you believe that "the market", be it job market or otherwise, is the be all, end all?
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Old 09-18-2014, 02:42 AM
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And where is Comair now?....Exactly...priced out of the market...
Thanks to attitudes like these, the 'market' is whatever management says it is. Good job, buddy.
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Old 09-18-2014, 03:23 AM
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Doesn't matter! If Piedmont's contract is so awful then people won't come to fly here. Many Pilots are still needed at Mesa, PSA, Envoy, Compass, Republic, and Whiskey. So if we are so much worse then all them it seems the market will take care of itself.

Like someone said, "Piedmont is still a crappy small airline that will never see a jet."

So if it's so crappy then nobody will come to newhire classes and our attrition rate should increase to the point we shut down.

Right??
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Old 09-18-2014, 03:37 AM
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And where is Comair now?....Exactly...priced out of the market...
It is interesting that Comair (as a public traded stock company) made money every year up to the year Delta bought it, from then on it was losing money (as a private entity).
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Old 09-18-2014, 04:26 AM
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The market has recently been artificially lowered due to PSA and PDT pilots capitulating to fear.

Fear is AAG's only weapon.
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