Piedmont or Trans States?
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So it seems that the general consensus on here is PDT... Why is it that every legacy CA I talk to says not to worry about the flow though... Five so far and all independently agree that I shouldn't factor the flow into my decision...
#33
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I told you that on the first page (choosing an airline because of a flow)...and its Piedmonts consensus that you should go to Piedmont. They all want a bump in seniority.
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TSA is a good place to be right now. I'm obviously biased because I'm here, but so are the other guys at PDT.
One of the draw backs of flow is you basically eliminate one of the three major airlines from your job search outside of flow. Ie you could only be hired with the flow at that one airline. You have to wait in line. My theory right or wrong is that non wholly owned airlines without flow will be the first to have their pilots drained while wholly owned airlines are preserved as long as possible.
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Nostalgia. No other reason. I had a blast flying turboprops and even the dc9 which is the last of the true hands flying jets. But neither has any bearing on my career. In a tighter labor market I would say do the type of flying that most closely resembles what the majors fly. But like flow, at least for the foreseeable future, it won't matter.
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They already have their mainline job... always nice to have it in the back pocket.
#37
Working for a Wholly Owned by US Airways was the kiss of death back in the day because they didn't hire hardly anyone from the WO's. Now we see our guys leaving each month.
The Flow is a guaranteed job at a major and if you don't want to go to American you can upgrade quick at Piedmont and apply to the Many other airlines out there.
The flow is what it is and it's guaranteed movement within the WO'ed ranks and a job at the Worlds Largest Airline. If you don't want the flow then go to TSA and get your PIC time. But I will tell you that once AAG starts filling over half there classes with WOed Flow pilots tell me what your chances will be coming from TSA to American. Pretty damn hard if you ask me.
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Are you guaranteed a job with the 3 majors???? They don't hire everyone they interview and I've seen many good guys not get hired.
Working for a Wholly Owned by US Airways was the kiss of death back in the day because they didn't hire hardly anyone from the WO's. Now we see our guys leaving each month.
The Flow is a guaranteed job at a major and if you don't want to go to American you can upgrade quick at Piedmont and apply to the Many other airlines out there.
The flow is what it is and it's guaranteed movement within the WO'ed ranks and a job at the Worlds Largest Airline. If you don't want the flow then go to TSA and get your PIC time. But I will tell you that once AAG starts filling over half there classes with WOed Flow pilots tell me what your chances will be coming from TSA to American will be. Pretty damn hard if you ask me.
Working for a Wholly Owned by US Airways was the kiss of death back in the day because they didn't hire hardly anyone from the WO's. Now we see our guys leaving each month.
The Flow is a guaranteed job at a major and if you don't want to go to American you can upgrade quick at Piedmont and apply to the Many other airlines out there.
The flow is what it is and it's guaranteed movement within the WO'ed ranks and a job at the Worlds Largest Airline. If you don't want the flow then go to TSA and get your PIC time. But I will tell you that once AAG starts filling over half there classes with WOed Flow pilots tell me what your chances will be coming from TSA to American will be. Pretty damn hard if you ask me.
#39
Or maybe because the guys who are flowing to AA now have been at Eagle for ~15 years. Not saying that's gonna be your experience, but if there is any disruption in our perfect world, your flow is a adversely affected. Don't go somewhere based on a flow.
#40
American will only flow as many pilots as there regional wholly owneds can spare. The minute that feed is in jeopardy shows over. They'll drain Republic and Skywest and others before they kill their own feed. If you were in charge how would you do it? Don't get me wrong, if you decide on a wholly owned it's a great backup plan. But I wouldn't make that a sole deciding factor (not that you said that).
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