Sleep Apnea-new FAA Guidelines - be prepared!
03-23-2015, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
When it came to truckers they said at $2200 multiplied by the number of truckers that would have to be tested that the cost would be $1B. To some that's a cost. To others that's pure revenue.
03-23-2015, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
They know that since there is a perennial shortage of truck drivers the trucking industry, not the individual drivers, would have to eat the cost so their lobbyists went to bat. Airlines aren't worried because they know the pilots will pay for it themselves.
03-23-2015, 07:01 AM
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What is Tilton's role here? Are medical device companies and disorder associations allowed to lobby the FAA or NTSB directly? Are there kickbacks or post Govt. positions on the line? Why is this his big cause? He got smacked down last year, reworded a few things, and is back this year. Seems very determined to get this testing done.
03-23-2015, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy32
What is Tilton's role here? Are medical device companies and disorder associations allowed to lobby the FAA or NTSB directly? Are there kickbacks or post Govt. positions on the line? Why is this his big cause? He got smacked down last year, reworded a few things, and is back this year. Seems very determined to get this testing done.
Follow the Money.
03-23-2015, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy32
What is Tilton's role here? Are medical device companies and disorder associations allowed to lobby the FAA or NTSB directly? Are there kickbacks or post Govt. positions on the line? Why is this his big cause? He got smacked down last year, reworded a few things, and is back this year. Seems very determined to get this testing done.
What was issued March 4th, 2015 is the new amended policy. Sneaky in a way but the way I read the document is you can't be denied soley on high BMI. Will a high BMI trigger an evaluation? That seems to be a 'clinical judgement' based on criteria to be determined by the AME.
03-23-2015, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy32
What is Tilton's role here? Are medical device companies and disorder associations allowed to lobby the FAA or NTSB directly? Are there kickbacks or post Govt. positions on the line? Why is this his big cause? He got smacked down last year, reworded a few things, and is back this year. Seems very determined to get this testing done.
You'll also find that the same companies that administer the OSA tests also sell CPAP equipment. So it's in their best interest to find that you have OSA, so they get recurring sales of CPAP supplies.
03-23-2015, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
They know that since there is a perennial shortage of truck drivers the trucking industry, not the individual drivers, would have to eat the cost so their lobbyists went to bat. Airlines aren't worried because they know the pilots will pay for it themselves.
New truckers are forced to go to doctors chosen by large trucking companies. Many of these doctors are forcing the applicants to get sleep studies, likely at clinics where they get kickbacks. It's another $2200 or so (between study and CPAP) for an applicant. Of course these OSA study/CPAP providers are nice enough to have automatic payments from new truckers' paychecks.
Even experienced truckers are being forced to pay for these contraptions out of their paychecks. So no, it's not the trucking companies paying for CPAPs, nor is it their insurance.
03-23-2015, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Billy32
What is Tilton's role here? Are medical device companies and disorder associations allowed to lobby the FAA or NTSB directly? Are there kickbacks or post Govt. positions on the line? Why is this his big cause? He got smacked down last year, reworded a few things, and is back this year. Seems very determined to get this testing done.
03-23-2015, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Tilton? (filler)
He's the one that brought in sleep 'experts' who came up with this crap.
This should be interesting for international pilots who want to sleep during flight. Break out the CPAP and hook it up while trying to rest on a flight. ... for those that don't know, CPAP machines record usage.
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