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#903
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,487
Too bad more of them aren't senior to me. The company really needs to figure out that a decent increase in flow will likely be offset by less attrition.
PDT is less than half our size but flowing a similar amount.
Unfortunately that seems a little too out of the box for DAY.
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#904
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Too bad more of them aren't senior to me. The company really needs to figure out that a decent increase in flow will likely be offset by less attrition.
PDT is less than half our size but flowing a similar amount.
Unfortunately that seems a little too out of the box for DAY.
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PDT is less than half our size but flowing a similar amount.
Unfortunately that seems a little too out of the box for DAY.
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#905
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,487
I've heard union is ready to open up some articles of the contract and so is the company. Union has a list of laundry items now just waiting for the company to get in the panic mode and sit down with them. I know rigs are one big item (hopefully meaning more productive trips), and hoping on revised flow formula...
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FYI, I wrote most of the list.
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#906
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 348
Nice! Hey it's pilot's market if you will and they can make it better so why not.
Attrition and FOs bypassing upgrades will only help the pilot group IMO.
Is flow formula on the list?
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Attrition and FOs bypassing upgrades will only help the pilot group IMO.
Is flow formula on the list?
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#907
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
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Posts: 135
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#908
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It's something we'd certainly like to see. My belief is that the current low flow rate is hurting them more than helping them. The trick is convincing them of that.
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#909
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,487
I found this in another thread and was wondering if you'd expound on it? With the high numbers of retirement to follow for the 2021-2025 in the majors, it seems that anyone there prior to 2022 would still enjoy being on the front half of the wave, and upgrades that may have previously taken 10 years will still be closer to 5-7 years.
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I haven't crunched the retirement numbers recently, but it is true that, depending on which carrier, the retirement rates slow at different times than at others. The earlier one gets on the list the better, and means one could have a higher rate of rise in their relative seniority than if one got hired later.
All subject to change, past performance not necessarily indicative of future results, etc.
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#910
patience
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,068
Look at Envoy and Piedmont numbers. They both have far superior flow agreements than PSA's. Look at how many total pilots they're losing along with pilots leaving outside the flow. Both Envoy and Piedmont are losing less pilots than PSA, proportionate to their pilot sizes and their losing far less pilots outside the flow. Yet, they are flowing more than double than PSA every month. PSA pilots are bailing left and right because the flow is worthless unless you're senior.
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