The MEC has been very quiet lately. I look forward to finally hearing something...anything...from them.

If something does come to a vote, here is something interesting to remember. Only 274 pilots on the list (minus another 30 or so that have already flowed) were hired before 2014. Since 2014, there are over 1000 pilots on the list.

There are 630 that were hired in 2014 and 2015 alone and on the list still. I am sure that they MEC knows this, and will try to create something accordingly.

 

Your MEC (CA & FO Reps) are only quiet if you do not reach out to them. I know each and everyone of them personally and they are more than happy to answer any questions you might have. Hell, reach out to me and I will give you what ever answers I can. (Speaking for myself) I cannot reach out to 1200 pilots individually. The turnout at the local events and voter turnouts speak volumes about our pilot group. (Not speaking of you personally), but a healthy dose of reality would go a long way to educate. Yet, others on public forums flourish. Reality is seldom as interesting and rumor. Respectfully, Michael 39%

 

I dont get the 39% part.

 

He was part of the 39% that voted against the LOA that brought the first batch of 900s on property.


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A PBS eliminates open time and split trips resulting from training and vacation and any other conflicts that are known before the PBS starts. You wouldn't have split trips in the SAP with a PBS. The amount of SAP open time would be dependent on contract language (or whatever the company decides if contract language does not exist) with a PBS.

 

I know it's been asked, but I can't find it...

Is there contractual language that says interviewing at mainline negates the opportunity to use the flow? Is the flow part of the CBA, or whatever contract the pilot group is on, or is it a 'bonus'?

I'm years from crossing this bridge, so I'm sure it will change before I have to make the decision. Heck, maybe the flow will come down to 4 years and I can make the 2021 seniority sweet spot at mainline, haha.

 

The flow is contractual language, but not in the contract. Rather, it's laid in out in LOA 5 which can be found in the ALPA folder in myMobile365.

Interviewing at mainline would not disqualify you from the flow.

 

Independent processes, yes but directly connected to each other.


The only way to switch to a PBS without messing up the SAP is keeping the current bidding time table. Round 1 w/ PBS, followed by SAP, then round 2 w/ PBS. During Round 1, there needs to be a limit on the amount of lines PBS can award. Meaning, if there's 250 bidders, PBS could only award 190 lines. This would leave enough trips for SAP and the remaining 60 pilots would bid in round 2 PBS after the SAP. The round 2 PBS would award trips and reserve days resulting in lines with just trips, lines mixed of reserve and trips and lines with just reserve days.

If the above happens, SAP would function the same exact way it does now, or better because of less people SAPing and no more split trips. win win

 

You should think more in terms of a contractual percentage of block hours left in open time post PBS award.

 

Our MEC has screwed up just about everything that they have touched. They can't even count the number of people listed as "active" captains on the seniority list. I do not trust them with anything in regards to the schedules that we have.

I'd rather deal with the devil that I know rather than the devil that I don't know. If the company wants PBS, there is a reason for it, and it isn't because they are being generous. They are trying to screw us in a different way. The company is playing chess. We are playing with our willies.

If we say that there must be "X" percentage left after PBS, it will all be garbage 200 flying with 14 hour 4 day trips. They will be contractually compliant but it will make SAP worthless. As it stands now, I can easily pick up trips worth more than 5 hours of credit per day.

Don't give away the only good thing that we have.

Also, the MEC is trying to help the company by adding language where some people will not be able to SAP holidays away. Complete garbage. If the company wants people to work holidays, just pay more. Let people decide. Don't give away benefits.