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Old 01-06-2018, 01:32 PM
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I filled out the application yesterday for the RTP Program, It said to expect replys in 2-4 weeks. Is that about average or is it taking more/less time then that?
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Old 01-06-2018, 01:47 PM
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I filled out the application yesterday for the RTP Program, It said to expect replys in 2-4 weeks. Is that about average or is it taking more/less time then that?

A friend that was applying for a FO position was called on the day that he applied and had an interview scheduled for less than a week later.

I think that the RTP program is backed up several months. I would expect it to be a couple weeks at least.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:56 PM
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I have 3500 hours of helo time and 800 fixed wing hours turbine time. All of my PIC time is in helos, can I still apply for the FO position with 800 hrs CP time in fixed wing?

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Old 01-08-2018, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sardog View Post
I have 3500 hours of helo time and 800 fixed wing hours turbine time. All of my PIC time is in helos, can I still apply for the FO position with 800 hrs CP time in fixed wing?



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That will be a hard one to answer without seeing your log books. You need to have the minimum flight time to qualify for an ATP certificate. Part of that is having 250 hours fixed wing PIC time. You also need your fixed wing multi engine and at least 25 hours multi engine time.

Some of your fixed wing CP time may count towards PIC time if you were "acting" as the PIC but you will need to dig into that to see what does and doesn't count. Feel free to PM me and I can try to help you decode your military log books into civilian.


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Old 01-09-2018, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tester130 View Post
That will be a hard one to answer without seeing your log books. You need to have the minimum flight time to qualify for an ATP certificate. Part of that is having 250 hours fixed wing PIC time. You also need your fixed wing multi engine and at least 25 hours multi engine time.

Some of your fixed wing CP time may count towards PIC time if you were "acting" as the PIC but you will need to dig into that to see what does and doesn't count. Feel free to PM me and I can try to help you decode your military log books into civilian.


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I flew with guys who got their commercial with 190 TT and then an 121 job. When they upgraded, their ATP had the restriction that read something like “does not meet ICAO PIC requirement” or something like that. They still had an ATP and were Captains on domestic flights until they got 250TT.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sardog View Post
I have 3500 hours of helo time and 800 fixed wing hours turbine time. All of my PIC time is in helos, can I still apply for the FO position with 800 hrs CP time in fixed wing?

Thanks
I guarantee that some of your FW time counts as PIC under Part 61, probably at least half of it if you were on a set of controls.

Read the Far 61 definition of Pilot-in-command, sorry I don't have the reference in front of me.

Try this article https://www.aopa.org/training-and-sa...mmand-pic-time
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Old 01-09-2018, 12:33 PM
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I sent a PM in regards to this as well, but the best place to look for ATP eligibility is FAR 61.159. (or FAR 61.160 for R-ATP).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/61.159

You must meet all requirements for an ATP-MEL, and we do go through logbooks very thoroughly to make sure that you do. We are not necessarily trying to "catch you", but our goal is that once you start class and then go for a check ride, there are no issues with your logbooks.

Military and civilian regulations on how to log PIC is very different, so some of that time will most likely be counted as PIC. Also, be sure to make sure you can show where you meet all other times as well - cross country is a big issue with some military logbooks.

It will be up to you to come to the interview with logbooks that show where all of the times are met.

I know that I have interviewed several people on here, and feel free to chime in if this has happened to you. I am sure that some of them have been asked about a particular flight, or a AATD, or something else in their logbooks that we noticed and want more details about. If you had a fun flight (California to Oshkosh in a Cub with a TT of 27 hours in 3 days), we'll talk about that because we are interested in and it sounded fun.
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Old 01-09-2018, 03:17 PM
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I sent a PM in regards to this as well, but the best place to look for ATP eligibility is FAR 61.159. (or FAR 61.160 for R-ATP).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/61.159

You must meet all requirements for an ATP-MEL, and we do go through logbooks very thoroughly to make sure that you do. We are not necessarily trying to "catch you", but our goal is that once you start class and then go for a check ride, there are no issues with your logbooks.

Military and civilian regulations on how to log PIC is very different, so some of that time will most likely be counted as PIC. Also, be sure to make sure you can show where you meet all other times as well - cross country is a big issue with some military logbooks.

It will be up to you to come to the interview with logbooks that show where all of the times are met.

I know that I have interviewed several people on here, and feel free to chime in if this has happened to you. I am sure that some of them have been asked about a particular flight, or a AATD, or something else in their logbooks that we noticed and want more details about. If you had a fun flight (California to Oshkosh in a Cub with a TT of 27 hours in 3 days), we'll talk about that because we are interested in and it sounded fun.
Yeah AATD time can get a little squirrelly.

When I got interviewed I got asked more about my remarks then the actual flights. I tend to record significant events as to remember the flights. So I write "Smoke in Cockpit" or "Amazing Sunset Landing".
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:20 AM
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What happens if you fail the final sim checkride?
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:13 PM
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What happens if you fail the final sim checkride?
If the failed sim event was the "first" proficiency check the pilot will likely be provided 2 additional training periods to obtain a recommendation for another PC.

Not sure after a second failure? Don't let that happen!
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