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Old 06-17-2017, 09:42 AM
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According to the numbers that come directly from American, the time that a new hire will spend at PSA is 6-7 years.
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What is the timeline for flow? Currently at about 9.5ish to 10ish years.
I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to stir the pot or rile things up, but how can there be a 2.5 - 4 year difference between what two groups are putting out regarding the same event?

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Old 06-17-2017, 09:49 AM
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According to the numbers that come directly from American, the time that a new hire will spend at PSA is 6-7 years.

I have not heard anything from the company either way about the increased flow. The MEC says that it should increase, but the company has not responded either way. They have not officially announced if we have or have not reached the number. So, I don't know where we stand with that. I hope for an announcement soon. The increased flow benefits me just as much as anyone else.

Upgrade time is about 24 months and according to the latest union numbers and should be falling.

I have never lied to anyone about PSA and I would like to discuss this with you. Please feel free to PM me your contact info and we can talk if you have any questions.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:54 AM
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I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to stir the pot or rile things up, but how can there be a 2.5 - 4 year difference between what two groups are putting out regarding the same event?

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The last guy that flowed to AA was hired at PSA on July 30, 2007. The company is trying to claim that a pilot hired today will flow in 6-7 years from his date of hire, however that is contingent on more than 50% of the pilots senior to him going somewhere else and not utilizing the flow. If everyone flowed, minus the top 60 or so who aren't going anywhere anyways, and we were flowing the max of 8 per month, which we are not, it would take a new hire about 14-15 years to flow. The only difference here is deception trying to sell a garbage product to newbies who don't know any better
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:55 AM
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And here comes the sales tactics... the cheer squad is out today. DF would be proud.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:26 AM
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And here comes the sales tactics... the cheer squad is out today. DF would be proud.
Even if all of the bad press is true, PSA is still better than just about every other regional.

The games that management is playing is the same thing that happens at mainline carriers

It is upsetting because we all want it to be perfect, but this is how this industry works. If you are complaining about PSA, then you would really hate anywhere else.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm View Post
Even if all of the bad press is true, PSA is still better than just about every other regional.

The games that management is playing is the same thing that happens at mainline carriers

It is upsetting because we all want it to be perfect, but this is how this industry works. If you are complaining about PSA, then you would really hate anywhere else.
Not true. Do you know how many pilots I've talked to that came from other regionals for the quick upgrade... most of which say it was a bad decision... if PSA is so great and flow is so great, why are people giving up guaranteed jobs at AA for places like spirit and allegiant, or worse, Republic!!!
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These are all good questions, but please understand that recruiters cherry pick the questions they address. Understand that not answering a question is still an answer. Michael 39%
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These are all good questions, but please understand that recruiters cherry pick the questions they address. Understand that not answering a question is still an answer. Michael 39%
DING DING DING DING. Winner winner chicken dinner. Recruiting 101: Avoid difficult questions by highlighting one of the following positives that PSA has to offer. Ummmmm the list is shrinking... but would you like a PSA bottle opener?!?!
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DING DING DING DING. Winner winner chicken dinner. Recruiting 101: Avoid difficult questions by highlighting one of the following positives that PSA has to offer. Ummmmm the list is shrinking... but would you like a PSA bottle opener?!?!
I will gladly answer any questions that I have an answer to. If I don't have an answer, I will direct you to someone that can answer it.

I am not going to lie to you and give you an answer that is not true. I am also not going to give a partial answer.

If you have a question for management, I suggest that you address it to them. I have asked many questions to management about this and I am waiting to get the answers as well.
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I will gladly answer any questions that I have an answer to......
You didn't answer MY questions.
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