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OldBill 04-26-2018 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2578951)
No long call reserve seems to be a contract violation

It was fixed. The Rd2 BU line is LCR. Know the contract!

blackhawk88 04-27-2018 02:04 PM

Did we decrease the actual flying in CLT? I know we reduced the lines, but it seems like a lot of PHL/ORF trips still go through CLT.

ZeroTT 04-27-2018 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by blackhawk88 (Post 2581658)
Did we decrease the actual flying in CLT? I know we reduced the lines, but it seems like a lot of PHL/ORF trips still go through CLT.

Isn't that sort of decision is entirely AA mainline.

TallFlyer 04-27-2018 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2581833)
Isn't that sort of decision is entirely AA mainline.



Mainline gives us our flying, but bases and trips are a function of PSA Crew Planning.


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FlyingSlowly 04-28-2018 12:57 PM

So the latest vacancy bid has an effective date (Sept 1) of more than 4 months in the future!!

Does this not give an unfair advantage to new hires over present employees? They can finish training and get to a base of their choosing faster than a line pilot can change bases. Is the union working to do anything about this? People have stuff going on in their life, and more than 4 months to change a base seems kind of absurd...especially considering all the movement that's going on anyways at PSA. Besides, it's not like the company can really plan stuff that far out anyways...

TallFlyer 04-28-2018 04:24 PM

Not on the union’s radar that I know of. Also, since every FO essentially bids on every vacancy, it does not favor new hires. I do agree that it seems like far out in the future.

All I know is that as of 8/1 I’m back in CLT. ;)


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Swakid8 04-28-2018 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 2582185)
So the latest vacancy bid has an effective date (Sept 1) of more than 4 months in the future!!



Does this not give an unfair advantage to new hires over present employees? They can finish training and get to a base of their choosing faster than a line pilot can change bases. Is the union working to do anything about this? People have stuff going on in their life, and more than 4 months to change a base seems kind of absurd...especially considering all the movement that's going on anyways at PSA. Besides, it's not like the company can really plan stuff that far out anyways...


How does a new hire have an advantage when a line pilot has a higher seniority?? Just bid into the base and bump a new hire....


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FlyingSlowly 04-28-2018 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 2582357)
How does a new hire have an advantage when a line pilot has a higher seniority?? Just bid into the base and bump a new hire....

Let me spell it out. A person can be hired and complete training and possibly be in the base they choose in about 3 months. The quickest a more senior lineholder can change bases is now over 4 months (Sept 1) as of the last bid. That means that a new hire can possibly get to a base they choose quicker than someone already at PSA can change bases. [That's what "Bid effective on XX (date) or upon completion of SIM for someone showing new hire status..." actually means.]

I fully realize that the more senior pilot gets awarded the base they want ahead of any newhire (in terms of priority), but my point is that a new hire can actually GET TO a base faster (in terms of calendar time) than someone already at PSA.

Life happens, sometimes pilots need to change bases without 4 months notice. More than 4 months out for a bid effective date (Sept 1) is a little ridiculous...

JayBee 04-29-2018 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 2582377)
Let me spell it out. A person can be hired and complete training and possibly be in the base they choose in about 3 months. The quickest a more senior lineholder can change bases is now over 4 months (Sept 1) as of the last bid. That means that a new hire can possibly get to a base they choose quicker than someone already at PSA can change bases. [That's what "Bid effective on XX (date) or upon completion of SIM for someone showing new hire status..." actually means.]

I fully realize that the more senior pilot gets awarded the base they want ahead of any newhire (in terms of priority), but my point is that a new hire can actually GET TO a base faster (in terms of calendar time) than someone already at PSA.

Life happens, sometimes pilots need to change bases without 4 months notice. More than 4 months out for a bid effective date (Sept 1) is a little ridiculous...

some airlines only let you change base once a year.

be thankful for what you have and all that jazz...

Swakid8 04-29-2018 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 2582377)
Let me spell it out. A person can be hired and complete training and possibly be in the base they choose in about 3 months. The quickest a more senior lineholder can change bases is now over 4 months (Sept 1) as of the last bid. That means that a new hire can possibly get to a base they choose quicker than someone already at PSA can change bases. [That's what "Bid effective on XX (date) or upon completion of SIM for someone showing new hire status..." actually means.]



I fully realize that the more senior pilot gets awarded the base they want ahead of any newhire (in terms of priority), but my point is that a new hire can actually GET TO a base faster (in terms of calendar time) than someone already at PSA.



Life happens, sometimes pilots need to change bases without 4 months notice. More than 4 months out for a bid effective date (Sept 1) is a little ridiculous...


I don't see a difference, current pilots just have to big their bases Months out same as New Hires....


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